Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:44390 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 50980 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2009 10:58:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2009 10:58:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.26.184 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.26.184 c2beaomr06.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.26.184] ([213.123.26.184:6688] helo=c2beaomr06.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 95/FC-09016-C621E3A4 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:58:53 -0400 Received: from [10.0.0.150] (host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.138.11.136]) by c2beaomr06.btconnect.com (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id BRW18581; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:58:49 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4A3E1268.7060104@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:58:48 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090408 SeaMonkey/1.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <2F881AF5-845A-4CCD-8D9F-31D99C383C6F@pooteeweet.org> <4A3C8687.5090804@lsces.co.uk> <1245541002.6521.22.camel@goldfinger.johannes.nop> <4A3DE678.90706@lsces.co.uk> <0A98F482-ADE6-40C6-B62A-D9FD51B54AA8@pooteeweet.org> <4A3DEE3D.9000303@lsces.co.uk> <42D6D0DF-726B-41B7-9AC2-9FC5EA8A7ED9@pooteeweet.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2beaomr06.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0207.4A3E126A.004B,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=10.0.0.150, so=2007-10-30 19:00:17, dmn=5.7.1/2009-06-05 X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.3.0RC4 From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: >> There is a reason why E_DEPRECATED isn't part of E_ALL. Anyways, its >> your call, but its not what we suggest. But overall there is always >> room for doc improvements (feel free to help out), but in the end you >> need to know the code or familiarize yourself with the code if you >> want to "fix" it, though per se .. there is nothing broken with the >> code in the current version of PHP. > > Ok, guess I am wrong here. Its part of E_ALL as I suggested it when I > proposed E_DEPRECATED initially. Since it seems I was the only one that > considered not including it in E_ALL. > > That being said, for development we currently suggest: > error_reporting = E_ALL | E_STRICT > > And for production: > error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_DEPRECATED > > So I guess we are pushing people towards fixing deprecation issues a bit > more forcefully than I thought. I must say that is does annoy me when I download a PHP package to have a look at, and since my systems all run with display_errors=on, these packages are somewhat unusable because of various warning messages. Ignoring messages like these is simply pointless - they should be handled and cleared up - which is why SOME of the decisions on what will be removed causes a lot of agro to which "Just switch it off!" is NOT an adequate response? We ARE expected to fix these things since that is what the people who pushed the changes through expect to happen anyway so that they can be removed quicker? :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php