Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:44327 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38863 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2009 22:01:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Jun 2009 22:01:43 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:33901] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 69/40-35766-546183A4 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:01:43 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C411EBC01A; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:04:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id avvjvYz73uJ4; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:04:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (84-72-88-166.dclient.hispeed.ch [84.72.88.166]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59BC1EBC015; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:04:21 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Derick Rethans , 'PHP Internals' Message-ID: <55F5AB47-A62E-4972-818F-4498EE5E3BCA@pooteeweet.org> To: Stanislav Malyshev In-Reply-To: <4A37EA3F.3010704@zend.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:01:35 +0200 References: <4A31462B.1070302@zend.com> <4A37CEC2.7050001@zend.com> <0FD8F38A-205D-4B79-AE8A-E7AFE475BC17@pooteeweet.org> <4A37EA3F.3010704@zend.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: bug #48247 again From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 16.06.2009, at 20:53, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >> so if this issue is also in 5.2 .. i feel even less inclined to >> delay a stable 5.3 release because of this issue. have we made it >> worse in our attempts to fix it? the fact that this bug isnt fixed >> yet could mean > > No, it was crash before, now it doesn't crash for me but produces > 400K of errors. One can argue it's better now, though pretty > marginally as in both cases system can not be considered stable. Of > course, there's an easy workaround of setting the timezone. It seems only you and Derick have expressed an opinion. If no one else speaks up I would tend to leave as is and fix it in 5.3.1 (and HEAD asap) and simply make sure that we put it in bold letters in the UPGRADING guide that you really should set the timezone. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org