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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:50:17 +0200
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To: Lukas Kahwe Smith <mls@pooteeweet.org>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Notes from the PDM in Chicago
From: kalle@php.net (Kalle Sommer Nielsen)

2009/6/4 Lukas Kahwe Smith <mls@pooteeweet.org>:
>
> On 03.06.2009, at 22:52, Andrei Zmievski wrote:
>
>> I don't want people here to assume that these notes are "decisions"
>> necessarily. They reflect the consensus of the group that was at the mee=
ting
>> and we should still take up the unresolved or arguable issues on this li=
st.
>> But hopefully we have a more structured and outlined list of things that=
 we
>> can follow for PHP 5.4/6. There are a couple of items that were unclear =
from
>> the original notes =97 looking at you, Liz Smith :) - so, those of you w=
ho
>> remember the discussion, please fill them in.
>
>
> To me its absolutely critical that we do not give the impression that the
> next bigger update after 5.3 will be 5.4. The next big thing is 6.0. If w=
e
> do a 5.4 then it will come after 6.0, just like 4.4 to ease migration. Bu=
t
> it makes no sense to release 5.4 with forward compatibility stuff until w=
e
> know we really nailed 6.0.

I completely agree, we have already seen how much further 5.3's
release process was extended by constant new proposals and in the
middle namespaces, doing a 5.4 (before a 6.0.0 alpha/beta/rc) will
most likely crease development in HEAD (again, again) and extend the
development a year. 5.4 could be a considerable upgrade after the
6.0.0 release, 6.0.0 have already been delayed many years, I remember
in Paris 2005 someone said something about an expected 6.0.0 alpha or
similar within a half year.

>
> regards,
> Lukas Kahwe Smith
> mls@pooteeweet.org
>
>
>
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regrads,

Kalle Sommer Nielsen
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