Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:44035 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 37297 invoked from network); 22 May 2009 17:02:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 May 2009 17:02:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=philip@roshambo.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=philip@roshambo.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain roshambo.org from 70.38.37.248 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: philip@roshambo.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 70.38.37.248 ip-70-38-37-248.static.privatedns.com Received: from [70.38.37.248] ([70.38.37.248:58673] helo=october.pilotpig.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1C/C3-28112-AAAD61A4 for ; Fri, 22 May 2009 13:02:35 -0400 Received: from c-76-22-32-17.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([76.22.32.17] helo=[192.168.1.2]) by october.pilotpig.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M7Y8T-0006sj-OT; Fri, 22 May 2009 13:02:22 -0400 Cc: Sahid Ferdjaoui , Christopher Jones , David Coallier , internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= In-Reply-To: <1242665645.6751.17.camel@goldfinger> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:02:22 -0700 References: <4A0C5CFC.6010705@oracle.com> <1242665645.6751.17.camel@goldfinger> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - october.pilotpig.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - roshambo.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] How to contribute for PHP Internals From: philip@roshambo.org (Philip Olson) Great topic... a few thoughts: - Internals documentation This task needs volunteers. Ideally a mix of people who have either no, some or enormous knowledge of internals but all with desire to both learn and teach it. Gwynne started the task but ran out of steam (life and the svn migration got in the way) but some good content exists. But, this is its own topic. Volunteers please email me and let's organize a hackfestish type event. - Bug tracker as a starting point The idea of intentionally creating nice bug reports for fairly simple non-critical issues, and promoting these as tasks for new people definitely sounds worth the extra effort. All ideas for how the bug tracker could help with this are welcome. - A "Get Involved" guide Some nice thoughts in this thread, and similar ones for a _rough_ TOC here: - http://wiki.php.net/doc/scratchpad/wheretohelp The basic idea is to create and promote a "Get Involved" section. To digress, awhile back while thinking about this (and wondering how the php.net project survives without it) I stumbled around and started a different yet related project: - http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Teaching_Get_Involved The plan is to learn how best to approach this topic and then apply it to php.net. If people are interested in working on this or only php.net specific parts then please let me know. So what that it's taken us 10 years to write a nice "Get Involved" guide, but at least we now have several resources to learn [steal!] ideas from while we create our own :) Common problems like repeated, lost and outdated content can no doubt be overcome. Regards, Philip