Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:44027 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 2360 invoked from network); 18 May 2009 17:29:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 May 2009 17:29:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jani.taskinen@sci.fi; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jani.taskinen@sci.fi; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain sci.fi from 204.13.248.72 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jani.taskinen@sci.fi X-Host-Fingerprint: 204.13.248.72 mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org Received: from [204.13.248.72] ([204.13.248.72:55436] helo=mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 35/AB-44945-5FA911A4 for ; Mon, 18 May 2009 13:29:26 -0400 Received: from a88-112-30-186.elisa-laajakaista.fi ([88.112.30.186] helo=localhost.localdomain) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1M66eQ-000DWB-EB; Mon, 18 May 2009 17:29:22 +0000 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 88.112.30.186 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX19ceqb7raVcSx65C2CRDnt2taSdraDhyw0= Message-ID: <4A119AE8.8060803@sci.fi> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:29:12 +0300 Reply-To: jani.taskinen@iki.fi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090320) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Shadle CC: PHP Development References: <4A0C9516.8060808@gmail.com> <4A0D2648.3050802@lerdorf.com> <4A11489C.6060101@cschneid.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Why does $_REQUEST exist? From: jani.taskinen@sci.fi (Jani Taskinen) Michael Shadle wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Christian Schneider > wrote: > >> There's a big difference between changing some rare features (and no, >> 5.3 needs - almost no to - no changes with the code bases I know) and >> removing something *everybody* uses. >> >> Apart from the fact that _REQUEST is not evil per se, the new setting >> request_order turns it into something sane again... >> >> So please let's end (at least the public) discussion here ;-) > > Not *everybody* uses it. > > a) Once again I'll use python as an example, you -can- break backwards > compatibility to finally break free of certain stigmas PHP != Python. PHP has lot more users. ;) > b) Would it be possible to tweak request_order so if it is blank, it > does not even create $_REQUEST? That I suppose would be good enough > for me. Just leave request_order empty in your php.ini and $_REQUEST will be empty. Now, please stop spamming the list about this issue. --Jani