Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:43705 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1963 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2009 18:06:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Apr 2009 18:06:00 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=philip@roshambo.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=philip@roshambo.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain roshambo.org from 70.38.37.248 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: philip@roshambo.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 70.38.37.248 ip-70-38-37-248.static.privatedns.com Received: from [70.38.37.248] ([70.38.37.248:39435] helo=october.pilotpig.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FA/0A-50915-780D4E94 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:05:59 -0400 Received: from c-76-22-32-17.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([76.22.32.17] helo=[192.168.1.2]) by october.pilotpig.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ltn13-00013g-0y; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:05:49 -0400 Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?David_Z=FClke?= , Arvids Godjuks , internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: <3B1B513E-2712-40C4-AC20-4A21EB039629@roshambo.org> To: Stanislav Malyshev In-Reply-To: <49E4CE2D.7010402@zend.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:06:42 -0700 References: <49E352FD.6070008@gmail.com> <2dedb8a0904131124u57f2f32ei27083a289f7f18a4@mail.gmail.com> <49E39B3C.2020401@zend.com> <49E47BF2.3090807@gmail.com> <9b3df6a50904140811o6d57a426gd320a822271e19f3@mail.gmail.com> <49E4CE2D.7010402@zend.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - october.pilotpig.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - roshambo.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Is it true that short_open_tag is deprecated in PHP 6? From: philip@roshambo.org (Philip Olson) >>> PLEASE, let the dead horse be! > > Apparently, this horse is not as dead as some would like it to be :) The horse is not dead or if so then no proper burial service was given. People are still waiting for the invitations and wanting to hear the eulogy. So, instead I'll make the following assumptions and engrave them into this topics tombstone: - short_open_tag is fully alive - short_open_tag is PHP_INI_SYSTEM|PHP_INI_PERDIR - all distributed php.ini files disable it (5.3+) - the default will be enabled, forever, unless #5 is used - --disable-short-tags will exist, forever - no new alternative syntax will be implemented, ever That's the situation people should understand and since this horse is considered dead I will: - update php.ini ini descriptions to reflect this - update documentation to reflect this - mark http://wiki.php.net/rfc/shortags as declined - point to the declined rfc when people suggest these alternatives All discussion is over unless a human knows the above synopsis is false, because CVS has spoken. RIP. Regards, Philip