Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:43647 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86493 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2009 09:01:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 09:01:15 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:44283] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D3/DB-12298-A561BD94 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:01:15 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE8C4144057; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:05:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kul8WB+JWfPL; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:05:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.1.2.126] (46.12.3.213.fix.bluewin.ch [213.3.12.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F474144009; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:05:24 +0200 (CEST) To: Matt Wilmas In-Reply-To: <0729A9B70D864C6E929169523CEBCB11@pc1> X-Priority: 3 References: <90FF707C-391F-4FF4-8C5E-2AECEB48EB78@pooteeweet.org> <7C741E86-7720-4C87-8A43-BCC34520F0B5@pooteeweet.org> <0729A9B70D864C6E929169523CEBCB11@pc1> Message-ID: <0976C1C7-FE6A-4C37-8998-C929575F85B2@pooteeweet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:00:48 +0200 Cc: "php-dev List" , "Pierre Joye" , "Dmitry Stogov" , "Christian Seiler" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RC2 and integer/float handling in 5.3 From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) Hi, @Matt: thx for getting back to me on this. In general all the technical details are way over my head. What worries me is that we are going back and forth with these changes. It seems there is a pretty large "trail and error" part to these changes. So for the most part at this stage I do not care all that much about fixing things that were broken in 5.2 and when in doubt I would rather stick with behavior form 5.2, than continue messing around with a better approach for 5.3. At this stage the best service we can do our users is to release 5.3 ASAP. So please everybody working on these changes, keep the above in mind. As soon as you can give me some more details on when all of this will be completed I would appreciate it, at which stage I will make a release plan for RC2. I know that there are still some issues on the windows side. I am waiting for details on that, but do note that RC2 will not wait for windows todo items that are not spelled out at this point. even then it will be decided on a case by case basis .. again .. if something was broken in 5.2 and will remain broken in 5.3 .. so be it .. we have enough improvements for a couple of minor releases at this point, that are waiting to be released with 5.3. Aside from this nobody raised their hands, so I will not wait for any thing else. I would also appreciate it if people would refrain from committing anything but clear bug fixes at this point. Anything with any level of a BC break should be brought to the list first. Keep in mind that HEAD is for development. regards, Lukas