Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:43472 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 49254 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2009 20:20:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Mar 2009 20:20:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kalle.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kalle.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.172 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kalle.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.172 mail-fx0-f172.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.172] ([209.85.220.172:48071] helo=mail-fx0-f172.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 97/5C-30978-4229AC94 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:20:52 -0500 Received: by fxm20 with SMTP id 20so238158fxm.23 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:20:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UTJl4lmGO1Lqx3YIMv9UHdT3IjPzVgEhgmulz5LsBuE=; b=pqQ1kS0Zed0S4qG14mKj+4mK+2nmaSBmu78AcBbvIg/0qEt3Fli77wXttwlAmw/e6k +g9446x2EgpT73KcbFV+0ICGqBTDVT4mkdK02NzLNsJWgZxCbj+WuhK6uAwyFjxMPYz/ 43YMpdRqU3ElQvyIsJBcT6/MP66YMg3vAcSqs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=OGCpFX7BHuU9mGFyFs2zU+bJDP9fwLraVK9Dv2rR7egWUCQTMI7FEa+5mbOnNTzRsk MCAJ9upnW+GxpFwniZguaMIX3uGto68juy4fLXRws8SR0FQHdq1xbTN7GyIC+cYEU7Fm fKmYWj0eAYMH1bZABSKybkNPR3utlU/EQ4j7o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kalle.php@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.103.203 with SMTP id l11mr3475866bko.71.1238012449186; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:20:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9C552133-ACEE-4615-B8A3-5B16BE8660CC@pooteeweet.org> References: <1237469542.7120.81.camel@localhost> <9C552133-ACEE-4615-B8A3-5B16BE8660CC@pooteeweet.org> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:20:48 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0087ec6009538e42 Message-ID: <2dedb8a0903251320p11b9fea0w3aaf32c71a7976ff@mail.gmail.com> To: Lukas Kahwe Smith Cc: Arnaud Le Blanc , php-dev , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] un-deprecating ticks ? From: kalle@php.net (Kalle Sommer Nielsen) 2009/3/25 Lukas Kahwe Smith : > > On 19.03.2009, at 14:32, Arnaud Le Blanc wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> After having seen some complaints about ticks being deprecated I'm >> wondering if they could be un-deprecated for now. >> >> Ticks are used by the pcntl extension to call signal handlers when >> signals are triggered. I added some functions as an alternative, but >> this does not covers all use cases (and forces a code change). >> >> When searching bug reports about ticks, one can feel the ticks to be >> broken (and this is why they have been deprecated). However, looking in >> depth at these bugs and viewing what caused them and how they have been >> fixed does not show really bad things about ticks. >> >> Actually one thing is broken (and is marked as such in the >> documentation), tick functions do not work in ZTS, this looks fixable. >> >> Any thoughts on removing the deprecation warning for now ? (at least >> until a replacement is found). >> >> Sorry for posting this so close to the freeze. > > > So what is it going to be? > I remember everybody was happy when it was deprecated. But I think everybody > ran under the impression that ticks is evil. > Indeed the only open ticket is #47198, which is the doc bug. Or did we close > tons of ticks bugs because it was deprecated? If ticks will be fixable in ZTS then I will be +1 for fixing them and undeprecating them, as its not a new feature but a bug fix. > -- Kalle Sommer Nielsen kalle@php.net