Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:43470 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 25400 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2009 19:05:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Mar 2009 19:05:23 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:34266] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 53/77-30978-2708AC94 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:05:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AAC1EBC028; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:08:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iT+kcdlwIAyu; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:08:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (77-58-151-147.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.58.151.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0891EBC024; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:08:25 +0100 (CET) Cc: php-dev , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= Message-ID: <9C552133-ACEE-4615-B8A3-5B16BE8660CC@pooteeweet.org> To: Arnaud Le Blanc In-Reply-To: <1237469542.7120.81.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:05:16 +0100 References: <1237469542.7120.81.camel@localhost> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] un-deprecating ticks ? From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 19.03.2009, at 14:32, Arnaud Le Blanc wrote: > Hi, > > After having seen some complaints about ticks being deprecated I'm > wondering if they could be un-deprecated for now. > > Ticks are used by the pcntl extension to call signal handlers when > signals are triggered. I added some functions as an alternative, but > this does not covers all use cases (and forces a code change). > > When searching bug reports about ticks, one can feel the ticks to be > broken (and this is why they have been deprecated). However, looking > in > depth at these bugs and viewing what caused them and how they have > been > fixed does not show really bad things about ticks. > > Actually one thing is broken (and is marked as such in the > documentation), tick functions do not work in ZTS, this looks fixable. > > Any thoughts on removing the deprecation warning for now ? (at least > until a replacement is found). > > Sorry for posting this so close to the freeze. So what is it going to be? I remember everybody was happy when it was deprecated. But I think everybody ran under the impression that ticks is evil. Indeed the only open ticket is #47198, which is the doc bug. Or did we close tons of ticks bugs because it was deprecated? regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org