Newsgroups: php.apc.dev,php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.apc.dev:216 php.internals:43348 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 21657 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2009 20:05:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Mar 2009 20:05:54 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=johannes@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 83.243.58.134 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 83.243.58.134 mailout2.netbeat.de Linux 2.6 Received: from [83.243.58.134] ([83.243.58.134:56368] helo=mailout2.netbeat.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 53/D3-01306-F1E0CB94 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:05:53 -0500 Received: (qmail 29059 invoked by uid 89); 14 Mar 2009 20:29:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (johannes%schlueters.de@93.104.121.95) by mailout2.netbeat.de with ESMTPA; 14 Mar 2009 20:29:01 -0000 To: Kalle Sommer Nielsen Cc: Pierre Joye , Lukas Kahwe Smith , Rasmus Lerdorf , Dmitry Stogov , shire , PHP Internals List , apc-dev@lists.php.net, Andi Gutmans , Stas Malyshev In-Reply-To: <2dedb8a0903131027k78e20129nb714e6ffc53ae593@mail.gmail.com> References: <49A097FE.10205@tekrat.com> <49B6AF73.2050506@tekrat.com> <49B75142.2090808@zend.com> <49B77363.4040000@tekrat.com> <49B7E092.2070004@zend.com> <49B7E291.3050807@lerdorf.com> <2dedb8a0903131027k78e20129nb714e6ffc53ae593@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:05:40 +0100 Message-ID: <1237061140.5812.27.camel@goldfinger> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [APC-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] APC/PHP Lazy Loading From: johannes@php.net (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 18:27 +0100, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > I must admit that I think it would be bad to delay 5.3 more and have > another beta because of this, Well, according to Dmitry (didn't test it myself) this doesn't bring real improvements so I don't think it's needed. > however if possible I would be all for > having APC in RC1 next week :) This was asked on IRC multiple times and always said something along the lines "talk to the current APC maintainers and if they think it's worth propose to internals" as the current APC maintainers can judge stability and risks better and have a better knowledge about missing 5.3 support. But nobody seemed t be that interested. By looking at the bug tracker I see 63 open APC bugs including missing support for 5.3 features (http://pecl.php.net/bugs/bug.php?id=15901) and some crashes from that I think APC benefits from an independent release schedule. Additionally APC doesn't offer core functionality and will need configuration to be useful (temp path, shm method, segment sizes, ...) so I don't think the additional installation step is that much of additional trouble. johannes