Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:43017 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 48899 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2009 16:34:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Feb 2009 16:34:43 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=steph@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=steph@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 64.99.136.151 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: steph@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.99.136.151 smtprelay-virgin0151.hostedemail.com Received: from [64.99.136.151] ([64.99.136.151:45045] helo=smtprelay-virgin.hostedemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 44/14-28940-2AF44994 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:34:43 -0500 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay05.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 86CAB1FFEBAA; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:34:39 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2,0,0,1ffb7e4d5df36aec,691ff1dea13fdf9b,steph@php.net,hannes.magnusson@gmail.com:pierre.php@gmail.com:kenashkov@gmail.com:mls@pooteeweet.org:internals@lists.php.net,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:601:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1487:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2198:2199:2393:2559:2562:2828:2902:3027:3352:3608:3740:3865:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3874:3876:3877:5007:6114:6119:6261:7653:7875:7903:8501:8526:9010,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from foxbox (77-100-159-145.cable.ubr07.shef.blueyonder.co.uk [77.100.159.145]) (Authenticated sender: steph.fox) by omf10.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <005501c98d30$2720fdf0$919f644d@foxbox> To: "Hannes Magnusson" Cc: "Pierre Joye" , "Vesselin Kenashkov" , "Lukas Kahwe Smith" , "PHP Internals List" References: <53C9D049-8C10-48F2-8312-C8A81D2B5990@pooteeweet.org> <00a601c98c7b$4ed5a4a0$919f644d@foxbox> <7f3ed2c30902111113q364b4094q22c71c1046a984a6@mail.gmail.com> <00c301c98c7d$da9cce80$919f644d@foxbox> <00d401c98c7e$a92bfcd0$919f644d@foxbox> <261daaa10902111131u61ad7ec9s9257a45e1e11f086@mail.gmail.com> <00ec01c98c81$2696b2d0$919f644d@foxbox> <00f501c98c82$b8c560b0$919f644d@foxbox> <7f3ed2c30902111420n56ecd4cbl5f95b2e2e511de6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:37:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-session-marker: 73746570682E666F78 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.3 todos From: steph@php.net ("Steph Fox") > Then I guess I need to read the archives. > I can't imagine why a system admin would give a damn about new > language features, object model, reference changes, pdo, new error > levels or how to check if a class inherits another class. They'd need to know that there had been major changes in the language and they couldn't just upgrade willy-nilly without warning the affected developers about changes that could break existing code, which the file addresses. They'd need to know too that (for example) 8 core extensions are no longer in the core, and that some new ones are. They might need to know about error reporting level changes, depending on the setup. They'd need to know about new core .ini directives and those affecting new extensions in the core. They'd probably want to know about streams changes (any). > Maybe listing every single new constant is a bit excessive, but we do > at the very very very least need to link to the page that lists them > then. That's not a problem. Lead me to your docs :) - Steph