Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:42978 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 97500 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2009 17:07:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 17:07:08 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:49418] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E0/C2-14355-9311F894 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 12:07:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E43C4144058; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:07:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B9Avqb0mY576; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:07:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (77-58-151-147.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.58.151.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935E84144057; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:07:22 +0100 (CET) To: Marcus Boerger In-Reply-To: <16710621709.20090208153645@marcus-boerger.de> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <5EC76153-898F-49C2-BDF1-C227578DB874@pooteeweet.org> <49889E3B.8020306@zend.com> <16710621709.20090208153645@marcus-boerger.de> Message-ID: <42DB4621-62D3-40E1-A32C-470E8537975B@pooteeweet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:06:58 +0100 Cc: Stanislav Malyshev , php-dev List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] towards the next 5.3 release From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 08.02.2009, at 15:36, Marcus Boerger wrote: > it should actually be a hard error. As we always claim PHP follows > pure > IS-A relation ships. Not sure we claimed PHP did anything pure ever. Or when we "claim" anything to begin with. Maybe we also claim that we are a glue language optimized for the web. I think that would imply that it would try to keep going unless the engine is in an unstable state. So if you ask me about what we should "claim" if anything .. is that we can notify a user if he breaks the "IS-A" relationship, but that we will not force a rewrite if you have coded yourself into a corner. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org