Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:42853 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5729 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2009 21:36:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Jan 2009 21:36:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:51101] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 83/5A-62571-DDC2E794 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:36:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C09414400B; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:37:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pnr0V1lwfqio; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:37:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (77-58-151-147.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.58.151.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0DC54144009; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:37:25 +0100 (CET) Cc: PHP internals Message-ID: <41ECBAA1-DC0B-4AEC-98BD-49416BDC26B4@pooteeweet.org> To: Stanislav Malyshev In-Reply-To: <497DF32D.2090005@zend.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:36:23 +0100 References: <273AD6AE-D39E-425B-9E96-7E398DC67904@pooteeweet.org> <9EEE0E89-DECF-432A-9B88-58C4FC05EDF2@pooteeweet.org> <497DF32D.2090005@zend.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] beta1 From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 26.01.2009, at 18:30, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >> Just FYI .. today is the last day for feature changes ahead of >> 5.3.0 beta1. The big change I am waiting on for today is the >> removal of the OO specific features in closures. Tomorrow will be >> dedicated to build only > > What do you mean by "removal of OO specific features"? I thought we > agreed on having closures just as they are now. Did anything change? > Why? Sorry for not communicating this earlier. Johannes and I are just worried that discussions over the OO aspects in closures will continue to slow down the 5.3 release process. In an effort to keep the focus on releasing all the features we do feel 100% comfortable with we have asked Christian to do this change. He agreed to this, even though he of course would rather have kept the OO features in, but he was none the less willing to do this for the greater good (as defined by the RMs). So in other words if you feel this is bad, blame the RMs .. but the decision still stands (I hope we RMs have enough credit to make such a decision). regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org