Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:42792 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 77633 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2009 20:12:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Jan 2009 20:12:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:46564] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5A/CF-15341-443D8794 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:12:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC01B414400F; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:13:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n6n-gU72ZTCI; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:13:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (77-58-151-147.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.58.151.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B39414400B; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:13:21 +0100 (CET) Cc: Christian Seiler , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?David_Z=FClke?= , Stanislav Malyshev , Marcus Boerger , Ionut Gabriel Stan , internals@lists.php.net, Dmitry Stogov , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= Message-ID: <2AFD2BBD-912E-428B-978A-5E1949DD4486@pooteeweet.org> To: Pierre Joye In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:12:41 +0100 References: <1016989528.20090112233204@marcus-boerger.de> <4974B2C8.5000704@zend.com> <49760CDF.2080006@gmx.net> <062274D5-9C20-4129-9597-145354A704EE@bitextender.com> <76BB6A71-62B3-4F0F-BB30-89CA7BAF5BD3@pooteeweet.org> <497880E8.5080202@gmx.net> <4978BCB7.7000000@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Object extension, $this binding of closures, chat results From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 22.01.2009, at 21:08, Pierre Joye wrote: > I'm talking about the features we already have, not about adding more > major features. If one of the new features is not complete and we know > it, why do you want to go ahead then? I can't find any good reason. because it means all the other features have to wait to be released. this includes all the features that will be released as part of 5.3 ... and all the features that are waiting for after 5.3. its really time we think release oriented .. not because our money depends on it .. but simply because its the right thing to do to at this point. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org