Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:42791 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 74181 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2009 20:10:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Jan 2009 20:10:45 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 63.205.162.116 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.205.162.116 us-gw1.zend.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [63.205.162.116] ([63.205.162.116:5066] helo=us-gw1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D0/0F-15341-3C2D8794 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:10:44 -0500 Received: from [192.168.16.104] ([192.168.16.104]) by us-gw1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:11:36 -0800 Message-ID: <4978D2C0.4070107@zend.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:10:40 -0800 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre Joye CC: Lukas Kahwe Smith , Christian Seiler , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?David_Z=FClke?= , Marcus Boerger , Ionut Gabriel Stan , internals@lists.php.net, Dmitry Stogov , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= References: <1016989528.20090112233204@marcus-boerger.de> <4974B2C8.5000704@zend.com> <49760CDF.2080006@gmx.net> <062274D5-9C20-4129-9597-145354A704EE@bitextender.com> <76BB6A71-62B3-4F0F-BB30-89CA7BAF5BD3@pooteeweet.org> <497880E8.5080202@gmx.net> <4978BCB7.7000000@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2009 20:11:37.0014 (UTC) FILETIME=[A1200560:01C97CCD] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Object extension, $this binding of closures, chat results From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > I'm talking about the features we already have, not about adding more > major features. If one of the new features is not complete and we know > it, why do you want to go ahead then? I can't find any good reason. You can argue every feature is not complete because there's always something somebody wants to add or change. However the good reason it is complete enough to be useful, and if we start right now to discuss yet another set of new features we won't have release until 2010 or 2011 - meaning new features we *already* have would be useless, since nobody could use them before we actually *release* them. What happen to "release often", folks? Why you must stuff every single idea anybody has in this particular version? -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com