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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:53:28 -0500
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To: Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: GSoC 2009
From: sgkelly4@gmail.com (Graham Kelly)

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Hi,

As a former GSoCer I think the php-gsoc@ mailing list would be a great idea.
One thing I noticed was that I really had no idea how most other studen't
projects were going besides the few that poped into IRC from time to time.
Another advantage of the php-gsoc list is that the internals list can be a
bit much when just starting out. I remember all of a sudden getting tons of
emails, most of which didn't havy any impact on my project. A GSoC specific
list would probably help that and make things easier for the students
(though, reading internals can be quite interesting at times and worth it
for GSoC students doing internals work :D). This list could also be used as
a place for potential students to ask questions, propose GSoC ideas and get
to know the GSoC oriented portion of the PHP community.

As mentioned by others, I think the weekly or bi-weekly report is a great
idea. It would really help keep everyone informd as to whats going on.
Also, more detailed project descriptions would be nice. It was kind of hard
to know what to write a proposal on for just a two sentance description of
the project.

~ Graham Kelly
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Hannes Magnusson
> <hannes.magnusson@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 00:03, Elizabeth M Smith
> > <auroraeosrose@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I think we really should encourage at least two active mentors for each
> >> project this year.  I think it helps both the students (always someone
> >> to annoy) and the mentors (less stress and time out of their lives) and
> >> provides a safety net if a mentor has real life issues come up.  But for
> >> that we need more people willing to mentor ;)
> >
> > If we create a "php-gsoc@" mailinglist where all the students and
> > mentors, and everyone else who wants to follow the student work, and
> > require students to post weekly/by-weekly status updates then there is
> > no need. The community can then help the mentor out and we get more
> > information about the projects.
> >
> > I still don't know what happened to many of the gsoc projects last
> > year, despite my multiple inquires to the mentors of the projects, and
> > haven't heard a beep from most of the students :(
> >
> > Lets keep it in the OSS style. Communicate in the open.
>
> Agreed.
>
> As a sidenote, the wiki has an account request system, simply request
> an account if you do not have yet one and likes to propose ideas.
>
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Pierre
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