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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC lite] implement import of functions in namespace
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Johannes Schl=FCter <johannes@php.net> wro=
te:
> On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 14:19 -0600, Greg Beaver wrote:
>> [RFC]
>> Implement importing of functions to complement importing of classes and
>> namespaces.
>
> It was aid that import should only work with classes. We might extend
> that but not for 5.3! The only engine feature to change are closures and
> there we either get a compromise about the prototyping/OO stuff or
> commit my patch to remove them for the time being.
> http://schlueters.de/~johannes/php/5.3-remove-closure.diff.txt
> (patch is missing the reflection part)
>
> It's been a long time for 5.3 already ... let's try to make release
> cycles shorter, not longer!

There is no pressure on us to push a release. If some features are
missing to make the new additions complete then let us complete them
before 5.3.0-final. That's exactly why we have test releases or tests
phases. It is really annoying to have half backed features
(caricature) when a final release is fired, and then have to wait .1,
.2 or .3 to finally get the full working implementation. It is not
possible to be 100% sure, but for these two cases (closure and this
one), problems have been identified clearly, let the respective
developers fix them.

About removing the closure or anything else only because we want the
beta1 out this month is a bad choice and I strongly disagree with this
decision (if it happens).

Cheers,
--=20
Pierre

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