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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] prototyping
From: helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger)

Hello Stanislav,

Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 5:29:02 PM, you wrote:

> Hi!

>> That is one example of convoluted code that is already possible. If a 
>> developer creates such a mess is his fault.

> "Convoluted"? "Mess"? Are you kidding me? It's standard usage of access 
> handlers.

It is a mess right now. You assign a closure to another method and get
access to the original owners private members. That is not only unexpected
and contradicting anything that any oyther language ever but but also
violates our very own basic ideas. That is what I call a mess.

Best regards,
 Marcus