Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:42623 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 89102 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2009 22:11:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Jan 2009 22:11:09 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 63.205.162.116 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.205.162.116 us-gw1.zend.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [63.205.162.116] ([63.205.162.116:59954] helo=us-gw1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5B/5B-34613-CF26E694 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:11:08 -0500 Received: from [192.168.16.104] ([192.168.16.104]) by us-gw1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:11:56 -0800 Message-ID: <496E62F8.3030302@zend.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:11:04 -0800 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ionut Gabriel Stan CC: Marcus Boerger , internals@lists.php.net References: <1016989528.20090112233204@marcus-boerger.de> <496BCD33.4080703@zend.com> <133861245.20090113225847@marcus-boerger.de> <496D2074.3070303@zend.com> <496DD269.4050701@gmail.com> <496E12CE.2080403@zend.com> <496E6030.7000708@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <496E6030.7000708@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2009 22:11:56.0493 (UTC) FILETIME=[1CF717D0:01C97695] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] prototyping From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > Now, regardless whether is convoluted or not, you must agree that is > better having callable properties in the language and documenting that > this won't apply for overloaded properties. In the end you don't really I do not see any aspect in which it would be better. > need callable overloaded properties as a developer already has access to Having features in the language that do not work together is usually a bad idea. Developer using overloads would expect it to work in most cases where properties work, and if this prototyping design can not do it I think it is a sign more work is needed to solve it before we can add it. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com