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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Q on Primitives
From: viroteck@viroteck.net ("Robin Burchell")

Ugh. Apparantly I forgot to CC the list on those last two mails..
Sorry. Pasted so others stay in on the conversation:

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:18 PM, troels knak-nielsen <troelskn@gmail.com> wrote:
> <snip>
That's an interesting mail, expresses a viewpoint I hadn't considered,
so, thanks for that.

However: If PHP provides such a set in stone opinion on how things
should be done, then why does it support, for example, provide class
vs functional programming paradigms - both to a first degree level?
(the mysqli extension is a very good example of what I mean here).

As I have seen it, PHP is one of the best of all tools: it provides
the features that many different programmers wish to use, and allows
them to use it. It doesn't restrict itself to any single spectrum of
programming, and I think that robustness is one reason it has
flourished, and continues to do so well into the future.

I see this as just another logical extension of that philosophy: you
see this as being "not the PHP way", whilst I see it as the polar
opposite: enabling programmers to do things as they wish, which I have
always thought was very much the PHP way :)


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On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Nathan Rixham <nrixham@gmail.com> wrote:
> because all of those current declarations would no longer work on the new
> version of php which implemented such change..? and I'm assuming it would be
> a much bigger change to the php internals than adding in an optional type
> after the method params..?

They would continue to work, because (you seem to be missing this
point of what I am suggesting) - 'function' would just mean a return
of a variant type (i.e. the current behaviour of not caring what it
is, and not touching it in any way

Whether or not it is a large change I am not qualified to suggest; I
haven't yet done too extensive a digging into the internals.