Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:42157 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 17933 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2008 16:18:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Dec 2008 16:18:47 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=hannes.magnusson@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=hannes.magnusson@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.128.191 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: hannes.magnusson@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.128.191 fk-out-0910.google.com Received: from [209.85.128.191] ([209.85.128.191:60492] helo=fk-out-0910.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8A/F5-21579-4E84D394 for ; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:18:46 -0500 Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 18so1354500fks.7 for ; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 08:18:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=5ipvzQNOicpXpqGUqDMnbgwtmin6n4wERRE44XOkko4=; b=RmqrjbVmv47wQCdzo048DreVuBM6eEZEb/ULoE7EFToJE6SpuQe8kT4EGh8qpgjIDE 98E81dDDbl3te21jmM6rR3c5VSJQnxhasBFI0MQoi8qxtDMgChfHm0707haK43YKR+S/ oKD58KmCs8X35JWUmKtV+EQagBN5jsjsXP94o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=BSRn/30jn9b9Thtk11pv6XrvYdz9oevazA6vk4BntQ5LU9vs7lsDAityVVcPL8H2pe cwc+9aXgUnY/NAx/Z3ZLHE5yQTYumbIlCi4vtLs0+MwwzFN0637XAtc+hCTifQ5XMVS5 xRHMBDIxSYRZkMoYsSygdC9LppG8YikKkxo+s= Received: by 10.181.223.2 with SMTP id a2mr1275160bkr.184.1228753121514; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 08:18:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.62.11 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Dec 2008 08:18:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7f3ed2c30812080818x6a29709bgcfc894b2a225b9b6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:18:41 +0100 Sender: hannes.magnusson@gmail.com To: "Pierre Joye" Cc: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?=" , "PHP Internals List" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1228751251.3429.18.camel@goldfinger.johannes.nop> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8486556988f48c3d Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About dropping magic_quotes in 5.3 (was: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.2.7 + magic_quotes_gpc broken) From: bjori@php.net ("Hannes Magnusson") On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 16:57, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Johannes Schl=FCter wr= ote: >> >> When dropping magic_quotes the hosting company can do one of two things: >> >> a) not update to 5.3 so we either have to maintain 5.2 for some time or >> let them have problems > > +1 We cannot simply nuke a feature that was once upon a time sold as a security feature, and is still enabled by default, just "out of the blue". > I already discussed the possibility to maintain the 5.2 branch after > 5.3-final (irc and some meetings) and I like to do it (in any case). I > do think it is something to do but only for critical bug fixes > (security or crash only). Of course should we continue to do security releases for "previous minor releases" until the "new one" is up to .2 or .3 at least. > We may say that it is the job of the distributors, but I'd to > disagree. It is critical for us to provide sources and binary releases > of a stable branch officially, even after a newer branch has been > released. How are distributions supposed to keep up to date with security fixes anyway? The only distro that has a chance is RHEL because they have an "inside guy". We really need to work on our relationship with other distros, starting with marking security fixes as security fixes. -Hannes