Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:42048 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10881 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2008 21:22:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Nov 2008 21:22:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:48195] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1C/D1-14465-38C6C294 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:22:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D55B414400B; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:24:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cV-mgqOQ5FoA; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:24:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.108] (77-58-151-147.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.58.151.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEB04144009; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:24:49 +0100 (CET) Cc: PHP Internals Message-ID: <36F14278-2896-40E1-971C-E488E890EAF7@pooteeweet.org> To: Lukas Kahwe Smith In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:20:25 +0100 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] apha3 From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 22.11.2008, at 14:52, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > Work is still going on to finalize the namespace changes. I am not > sure when this will be done, I am sort of hoping Monday. Then we can > freeze Tuesday and release on Thursday if all goes well. The good news, namespace changes are now finished ahead of alpha3. Documentation is also going to be available soon. Now for the bad, I have continued the trend of being too optimistic for the alpha3 release date, which is now set for Tuesday December 2nd. Freeze is therefore on the 28th, packaging will happen sometime on December 1st, allowing a period for important last minute fixes as well as build related work. Until then please all make sure that you get whatever you can ready. Since we hope this will be our last alpha, it also means that this release will also mark the end for feature additions in self contained parts of the code. That being said I already know of a few items that I know will not make it into alpha3 that we might see before beta1. If you are unsure if your stuff is in this mental list, please let me or Johannes know just to make sure. But if you have not gotten in contact with one of the RM's about your stuff yet, then its unlikely that we will consider it after beta1. Not because we are mean or because we do not realize that many of you only have your spare time to work on stuff, just because we really really have to get 5.3 out the door some day and guess what .. it looks like we will not even have a beta out this year! So think about it .. at least 2 beta's, 2-4 RC's and yeah .. it even looks optimistic to go stable in Q1 2009. Again this is open source, so the only people we do not have to release on a specific date, I just feel bad for all the work people have put into code months ago that is not getting released for so long. Anyways, a few items from the top of my head that I know people were talking about: - rounding patch - stream's issues that Greg found and Arnaud recently commented on as well as other streams issues - openssl patches - gd work - mysqlnd async stuff ready? - interbase ready on windows? Independent of that I need someone to handle the move of ext/mhash to PECL. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org