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To: internals@lists.php.net,Lukas Kahwe Smith <mls@pooteeweet.org>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3 (sorry missed a couple votes, but
 they did not affect the results)
From: mike@php.net (Michael Wallner)

Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:

> 7) should Output buffering rewrite MFH? this one comes with some
> baggage, we need enough people to actually have a look at how things are
> in HEAD and make it clear that they will be available for bug fixing and
> BC issues resolving. the risk here is obviously that any BC issues will
> be hard to isolate for end users.
> 
> -1 Lukas
> -1 David
> +1 Hannes
> +0 Matt Wilson
> +0 Greg
> +0 Derick
> +1 Elizabeth
> +0 Lars
> -1 Stas for now Need more explanation why we need rewrite, what the
> rewrite does, etc. If there's a good reason and maintainer, then maybe +1.
> -1 Ilia
> +0.5 Steph I'd really like to see it in 5.3 because it was supposed to
> fix several OB issues, but it's probably too late in the cycle now
> +0 Scott
> +1 Kalle
> -1 David S.P. for now Need more explanation why we need rewrite, what
> the rewrite does, etc. If there's a good reason and maintainer, then
> maybe +1.
> -1 Rob
> +1 Pierre (if it creates non fixable issues during the alpha/RC phases,
> it can always be reverted.  However the code is much cleaner and easier
> to maintain, if I can use the word "easy" for the OB code)
> +0 Arnaud Le Blanc
> +0 Larry Garfield
> +0 Lester Caine
> +0 Konstantin Leboev
> +1 Jani
> +0 Jonathan Bond-Caron
> +0 George Antoniadis
> +1 Felipe
> +1 Moriyoshi
> +0 Karsten Dambekalns
> +0 Alexey Zakhlestin
> +1 Guilherme Blanco
> +1 Marcus
> 
> => no MFH, very unclear vote result and nobody that raised their hand to
> take responsibility (yes Pierre I know that you raised your hand on IRC)

Hm...  I'm still alive, but I feel blamed for not reading a mailing list
which has become unmanageable to read.  I wrote the code, so I'm probably
"responsible" for it, too.  And again, I was asked several times to back
port it, so it can be included in 5.3--which doesn't mean I'm insisting
on that matter, just to make it clear.

I've still got some email addresses which--despite of spam--I am able 
to read and respond in a reasonable time span.  Usually you can even hit 
me on IRC.  Feel free to ask me any questions per mail or on IRC, but don't 
expect me to read a quadrillion of mails on internals@.

Cheers,
Mike