Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41874 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 68621 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2008 19:48:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Nov 2008 19:48:20 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=derick@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=derick@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 82.94.239.7 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: derick@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.94.239.7 mail.jdi-ict.nl Linux 2.6 Received: from [82.94.239.7] ([82.94.239.7:48858] helo=mail.jdi-ict.nl) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EE/32-07308-1033B194 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:48:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.jdi-ict.nl (8.13.7/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mACJmCSF025185; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:48:13 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:48:13 -0500 (EST) X-X-Sender: derick@kossu.ez.no To: Lukas Kahwe Smith cc: internals Mailing List In-Reply-To: <42D56477-0E39-4548-B711-A950480E562E@pooteeweet.org> Message-ID: References: <42D56477-0E39-4548-B711-A950480E562E@pooteeweet.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3 From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > 1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC break > will be that "if (extension_loaded('mhash'))" will need fixing if mhash is > removed (answer both) > I) enable ext/hash by default > II) remove ext/mhash yes, yes > 2) deprecate ereg*. ext/ereg is an extension as of PHP 5.3. Since ext/ereg is > more or less redundant with ext/preg and is likely to not get much unicode > love for PHP 6, the question is if we should mark it with a E_DEPRECATED in > PHP 5.3 no > 3) resource constants (choose one) > a) Should we deprecate constant resources (mostly used to emulate STDIN and > friends) > b) Should we instead just throw an E_STRICT > c) Document as is c > 4) keep ext/phar enabled by default in 5.3? yes > 5) keep ext/sqlite3 enabled by default in 5.3? yes > 6) enable mysqlnd by default in 5.3? (answer both) > I) enable mysqlnd by default > II) also enable ext/mysql, mysqli und pdo_mysql by default since there will be > no external dependencies in this case no, no > 7) should Output buffering rewrite MFH? this one comes with some baggage, we > need enough people to actually have a look at how things are in HEAD and make > it clear that they will be available for bug fixing and BC issues resolving. > the risk here is obviously that any BC issues will be hard to isolate for end > users. > > 8) MFH mcrypt cleanups in HEAD. either the make sense or they dont, so either > (choose one) > a) revert in HEAD > b) MFH to 5.3 a - definitely not b - there is not enough test cases, and there are way too many changes to see what was changed. From what I can see now, allowing this enormous big patch into HEAD was also a bad idea. (And seriously, this shouldn't have been on your list IMO). Derick -- HEAD before 5_3!: http://tinyurl.com/6d2esb http://derickrethans.nl | http://ezcomponents.org | http://xdebug.org