Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41872 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 64005 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2008 19:29:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Nov 2008 19:29:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=shadda@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=shadda@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.162.177 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: shadda@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.162.177 el-out-1112.google.com Received: from [209.85.162.177] ([209.85.162.177:32938] helo=el-out-1112.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B1/51-07308-C9E2B194 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:29:32 -0500 Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o28so397025ele.2 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:29:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=QHSHXtbnRw4gIahd/FlMNIb0iFtTRawGLaEM0ZxuxFs=; b=ecO2v1yTmgBUpPq884lPV0om+ukJ/0vdMO0NY3ohOuOCtvGUwm6uoRXSrZbym4pzW2 mXWzhpimfA1KIBNXD+8gFbMUodH0CR1nIo4RcnOSTh2noEYxKXWuu8aZgnOUb9QQ6BnV vvzrLkAUb/wG7ygg2IZfVFihAY12tIxV96yU4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=eUNVcVlDt491pDv4UH6HcEtqXjpZxzX1BriMlILylnRBBur+faPl0CmDJj+WRQWw52 FNmFoY3nJuDVc995Cgbm1ratDv5We/tJBa29PMeM6G4m5FyNH3DVadpAYw0cubEPxsVu XvSN9WaJgxGLAqdKLC5eN84JR93cyihfs9WEs= Received: by 10.90.32.14 with SMTP id f14mr8518116agf.118.1226518168872; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:29:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ragnarok.adknowledge.com (nat-216-21-215-250.adknowledge.com [216.21.215.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y56sm3953415hsb.19.2008.11.12.11.29.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:29:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <619FD7BD-4D60-4171-97E8-269C80E620CA@gmail.com> To: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <42D56477-0E39-4548-B711-A950480E562E@pooteeweet.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-13--897136610 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:29:26 -0600 References: <42D56477-0E39-4548-B711-A950480E562E@pooteeweet.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3 From: shadda@gmail.com (Matt Wilson) --Apple-Mail-13--897136610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Nov 12, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > Hi, > > here are a few questions that need to be answered ASAP. > > If at all possible keep your votes as short as possible. I think all > of the above topics have been discussed quite a lot on the list. So > I hope voters can spare the list needless repetition. Instead if you > think that a topic needs to be discussed, put a short note in your > vote under the given topic. If a number of people also think the > topic needs more discussion, then we can open a new thread dedicated > to this topic later this week. > > 1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire > BC break will be that "if (extension_loaded('mhash'))" will need > fixing if mhash is removed (answer both) > I) enable ext/hash by default > II) remove ext/mhash +1 for both > > > 2) deprecate ereg*. ext/ereg is an extension as of PHP 5.3. Since > ext/ereg is more or less redundant with ext/preg and is likely to > not get much unicode love for PHP 6, the question is if we should > mark it with a E_DEPRECATED in PHP 5.3 > +1 > 3) resource constants (choose one) > a) Should we deprecate constant resources (mostly used to emulate > STDIN and friends) > b) Should we instead just throw an E_STRICT > c) Document as is > -1, keep as is > 4) keep ext/phar enabled by default in 5.3? > -1 > 5) keep ext/sqlite3 enabled by default in 5.3? > -1 > 6) enable mysqlnd by default in 5.3? (answer both) > I) enable mysqlnd by default > II) also enable ext/mysql, mysqli und pdo_mysql by default since > there will be no external dependencies in this case > -1 to both > 7) should Output buffering rewrite MFH? this one comes with some > baggage, we need enough people to actually have a look at how things > are in HEAD and make it clear that they will be available for bug > fixing and BC issues resolving. the risk here is obviously that any > BC issues will be hard to isolate for end users. > no opinion > 8) MFH mcrypt cleanups in HEAD. either the make sense or they dont, > so either (choose one) > a) revert in HEAD > b) MFH to 5.3 > +1 to B > regards, > Lukas Kahwe Smith > mls@pooteeweet.org > > > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > --Apple-Mail-13--897136610--