Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41867 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 56220 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2008 19:16:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Nov 2008 19:16:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:34650] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 59/9F-07308-27B2B194 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:16:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850E84144058 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:17:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PMkpcxodg0wM for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:17:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (77-58-151-147.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.58.151.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD62414400F for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:17:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <42D56477-0E39-4548-B711-A950480E562E@pooteeweet.org> To: internals Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:14:31 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: quick polls for 5.3 From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) Hi, here are a few questions that need to be answered ASAP. If at all possible keep your votes as short as possible. I think all of the above topics have been discussed quite a lot on the list. So I hope voters can spare the list needless repetition. Instead if you think that a topic needs to be discussed, put a short note in your vote under the given topic. If a number of people also think the topic needs more discussion, then we can open a new thread dedicated to this topic later this week. 1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC break will be that "if (extension_loaded('mhash'))" will need fixing if mhash is removed (answer both) I) enable ext/hash by default II) remove ext/mhash 2) deprecate ereg*. ext/ereg is an extension as of PHP 5.3. Since ext/ ereg is more or less redundant with ext/preg and is likely to not get much unicode love for PHP 6, the question is if we should mark it with a E_DEPRECATED in PHP 5.3 3) resource constants (choose one) a) Should we deprecate constant resources (mostly used to emulate STDIN and friends) b) Should we instead just throw an E_STRICT c) Document as is 4) keep ext/phar enabled by default in 5.3? 5) keep ext/sqlite3 enabled by default in 5.3? 6) enable mysqlnd by default in 5.3? (answer both) I) enable mysqlnd by default II) also enable ext/mysql, mysqli und pdo_mysql by default since there will be no external dependencies in this case 7) should Output buffering rewrite MFH? this one comes with some baggage, we need enough people to actually have a look at how things are in HEAD and make it clear that they will be available for bug fixing and BC issues resolving. the risk here is obviously that any BC issues will be hard to isolate for end users. 8) MFH mcrypt cleanups in HEAD. either the make sense or they dont, so either (choose one) a) revert in HEAD b) MFH to 5.3 regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org