Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41830 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 3334 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2008 15:13:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Nov 2008 15:13:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:41124] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 51/35-04934-5BF48194 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:13:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58F31EBC029; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:15:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CIhjK0LgBI+o; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:15:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.80.161] (unknown [195.226.16.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD301EBC02E; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:15:06 +0100 (CET) Cc: "Kalle Sommer Nielsen" , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jaroslav_Hansl=EDk=22?= , internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: <277609EA-B7A5-460E-95DB-1D50B061A6A3@pooteeweet.org> To: "Pierre Joye" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:12:26 +0100 References: <4917EF52.8090607@lsces.co.uk> <4918100A.4020907@lsces.co.uk> <623D28C0-762D-40AB-AEF1-A4DAD46514BA@pooteeweet.org> <491817BD.4030400@lsces.co.uk> <49182762.50908@lsces.co.uk> <66.7E.04934.C2548194@pb1.pair.com> <2dedb8a0811100651xe5bdeecp3c074cd78cfa7927@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] alpha3 or forever hold your peace From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 10.11.2008, at 16:06, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen > wrote: >> 2008/11/10 Jaroslav Hansl=EDk : >>> Pierre Joye napsal(a): >>> >>>>> php_pspell.dll >>>>> php_snmp.dll >>>> >>>> snmp and pspell are likely to do not be present in the next release >>>> and maybe not in the final release (windows only). The underlying >>>> libraries are not portable enough to be used on windows and the >>>> versions used before have critical issues (security or crashes). >>> >>> >>> Would it be better to have these extension with some issues =20 >>> (current state) >>> than not to have them at all? >> >> As from what I could understand from Pierre, then SNMP is dead on >> Windows and have been for a very long time (for example it doesn't >> even compile). >> >> I don't remember about pspell, but I think it would make more sense =20= >> to >> maybe include something like enchant for spelling though. > > Enchant works but not using pspell (for the same reason than > ext/pspell does not), it works with almost any other spelling system, > on all platforms. But that's not the problem neither the solution as > enchant is not part of the core. Should we examine if we want to make enchant part of core? I guess you =20= are one of the maintainers, so the prime candidate to tell us if you =20 think its ready .. > pspell and netsmnp libraries are not portable and can't be built on > windows. We don't feel like releasing packages with critical security > issues is a good thing to do. If we do not find a solution by the time > of 5.3-final, we can always provide an extra package with these > packages but with a (very) strong warning about using them in > production environment. I agree. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org