Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41814 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 25408 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2008 11:57:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Nov 2008 11:57:08 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:32861] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 03/74-04934-49128194 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:57:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CED8414400F; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:58:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uSSDkPHi-rMo; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:58:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.80.161] (unknown [195.226.16.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5729E414400B; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:58:23 +0100 (CET) Cc: Marcus Boerger , PHP Development Message-ID: <98C733B5-8F7F-4C06-8F14-997F8BB1261B@pooteeweet.org> To: jani.taskinen@iki.fi In-Reply-To: <491815B6.8060505@sci.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:55:44 +0100 References: <49180FE8.7050207@sci.fi> <2810670357.20081110115839@marcus-boerger.de> <491815B6.8060505@sci.fi> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] alpha3 or forever hold your peace From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 10.11.2008, at 12:06, Jani Taskinen wrote: > Marcus Boerger wrote: >> Hello Jani, >> Monday, November 10, 2008, 11:41:44 AM, you wrote: >>> Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I just wanted to ask everybody to skim over the changes for PHP >>>> 5.3 we have in CVS (especially bigger stuff like the addition/ >>>> removal of an extension etc.). Please bring up any areas you are >>>> concerned about that we might have forgotten. However I am not >>>> interested in people bringing up a debate again on namespace >>>> syntax or resolution orders (I hope to have the final behavior in >>>> CVS ASAP). This is just an attempt to ensure >>> 1. Change ext/phar to be disabled by default >> We are not disabling thois because Jani doesn't like it. > > Eh? It wasn't supposed to be enabled everywhere from the beginning! > Only for the RC stage. Search the mailing list. It's not about me > not liking it or not, it's about general usefulness. No, this is just your selective interpretation of the situation. We decided to enable it by default because if we felt its important to be enabled by default. We left ourselves the option of not enabling it by default (or even removing it) in case we find issues that make it unfit to be enabled by default (or bundled). So far it seems that Greg/Marcus/Steph have been quick to react to any issues that have popped up. Checking the pecl and php bug tracker seems to validate this. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org