Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41764 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 60405 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2008 21:00:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Nov 2008 21:00:34 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sv_forums@fmethod.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sv_forums@fmethod.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain fmethod.com from 69.16.228.148 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sv_forums@fmethod.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 69.16.228.148 unknown Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [69.16.228.148] ([69.16.228.148:52911] helo=host.fmethod.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 98/5E-02726-07CA4194 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:00:33 -0500 Received: from [83.228.56.37] (port=4952 helo=pc) by host.fmethod.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KyYRS-00058l-6u for internals@lists.php.net; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:00:30 -0600 Message-ID: <64ABE12C26DE4CFD8F4A45B7C6B48F9D@pc> To: "PHP Development" References: <37298173-C0B0-413C-AA22-2B8EE75E3AEA@omniti.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 23:00:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.fmethod.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fmethod.com Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Case sensitivity From: sv_forums@fmethod.com ("Stan Vassilev | FM") > As another example, anyone with half a brain and more than 10 minutes > experience with the internals of PHP knows that it'd be ridiculous to > suggest that PHP's array type be re-written to act like Java or .NET. > The fact that it is ridiculous is implicit, we all know it, it doesn't > need to be said. Hi, I don't know why case sensitivity as I layed it out, is put in the same group as ideas for removing $ from variables or redoing the PHP primitives, or what have you... Knowing the guts of PHP doesn't protect people from making really bad proposals, as anyone following this list for some time is well aware. Core devs know the PHP engine well, but sometimes have little idea of accepted standards, syntax and common workflows in and outside the PHP community. Also: those truly "hilarious" joke replies some people keep producing on this list, including to this thread: they're not funny. The idea of OSS forums like this list, isn't to generate easy entertainment for bored programmers. A valid point elsewhere is lost everytime a thread heads this way. Regards, Stan Vassilev