Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41762 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39676 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2008 19:03:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Nov 2008 19:03:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=nate@omniti.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=nate@omniti.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain omniti.com designates 8.8.38.6 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: nate@omniti.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 8.8.38.6 smtp.omniti.com Received: from [8.8.38.6] ([8.8.38.6:55615] helo=edge.omniti.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 58/CA-02726-A1194194 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:03:56 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=omniti.com; s=s1024; c=simple/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@omniti.com; t=1226084632; h=From:Subject:Date:To; bh=tWPmN/Qpxn+vs6V+hXrSOC/yBcD/iI4bOnSF5+zDa84=; b=VvSqXKXVRsmzDip+POch9AbX19D7q3Hc8xqCCRMubaeF9nx+k5ElN2xelKjjhElz B/aVfQkaiDTih3Q0X+SDSXqpqyDc5yiOlqkKj5AjKnZXuQZ7NjfJbJH/f15n/KT+ uW1gdDl7VcYzaPRabTw3OjJbIIrx4aXwA/TuXS0Ga0g=; Authentication-Results: edge smtp.user=nate@omniti.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [8.8.38.2] ([8.8.38.2:51326] helo=office-0-62.nyc.omniti.com) by edge (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.35 r(26636M)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES128-SHA) id 3A/87-14428-81194194; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:03:52 -0500 Message-ID: To: PHP Development In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:03:10 -0500 References: <37298173-C0B0-413C-AA22-2B8EE75E3AEA@omniti.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Case sensitivity From: nate@omniti.com (Nate Abele) On Nov 7, 2008, at 12:59 AM, Ronald Chmara wrote: > On Nov 6, 2008, at 6:27 PM, Nate Abele wrote: >> >> I was shocked and horrified that that ridiculous "remove-the-$" >> post actually turned into a legitimate discussion. I mean, >> seriously? > > No, not seriously. > > [snip] > > The trick is knowing when a joke is intentional, or not. > > -Bop Hi Ronald, While it was obvious that some responses were farcical, if you review you'll clearly see that some responses were indeed explanatory discussion, describing why this approach would not work. This is completely unnecessary. This particular case non-withstanding, the instances where this occurs are numerous and regular. As another example, anyone with half a brain and more than 10 minutes experience with the internals of PHP knows that it'd be ridiculous to suggest that PHP's array type be re-written to act like Java or .NET. The fact that it is ridiculous is implicit, we all know it, it doesn't need to be said. Okay, now I'm done wasting everyone's time. I don't want to continue to exacerbate the very issue I'm speaking against, but please just consider it -- by responding to the noise, you're creating the very problem you want to solve through moderation. Show a little self- restraint (vis-a-vis http://xkcd.com/386/). (For the record, I am all for making the list read-only for anyone without karma. It'd make my morning routine much less aggravating.) Thanks, - Nate