Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41754 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 85226 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2008 08:52:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Nov 2008 08:52:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:56595] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 20/11-14053-CB104194 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:52:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA04414405A; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:53:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lr3004JE-TsD; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:53:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.80.161] (unknown [195.226.16.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B774144009; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:53:10 +0100 (CET) Cc: "Hannes Magnusson" , "PHP Development" Message-ID: <5363D8C5-B060-48E1-B626-D7BCA3BBD1C2@pooteeweet.org> To: "Pierre Joye" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:51:00 +0100 References: <78F3CCDA-D0E5-4B13-88B1-72CB0D442A46@pooteeweet.org> <7f3ed2c30811070029v23715e61j2310c39d3e3e9366@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] alpha3 From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 07.11.2008, at 09:30, Pierre Joye wrote: > hi! > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Hannes Magnusson > wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 22:00, Lukas Kahwe Smith >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> This are tentatively looking like alpha3 could hit on November 18th. >>> So everybody please try to get whatever you are working on ready >>> to be >>> finished and committed by no later than 13th. So that packaging >>> can happen >>> on a stable tree on the 17th. >> >> Is the output buffering MFH still a lost cause? > > I hope not, it is a must have. To quote myself on this topic: "These are all convincing arguments to have done this earlier. But Johannes and I are a bit worried, that this code did not see that much testing since it was checked in to HEAD quite a while ago. And seeing that the backport is mainly cleanup and not bug fixing, we are a bit worried about the risk this backport has (not necessarily in it introducing bugs, but more about BC issues here and there). Especially since it seems that you are the only one who actively looks after output buffering .. (Johannes actually asked to have this stuff in PHP 5.3 months ago, but you were a bit MIA back then .. and nobody else showed interest). So unless you can take our worries away in terms of BC issues, I guess we would prefer to leave this patch out of PHP 5.3. Sorry about the misunderstanding and the work you put into producing this patch." regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org