Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41715 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 82558 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2008 11:56:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Nov 2008 11:56:50 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=steph@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=steph@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 64.99.136.182 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: steph@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.99.136.182 smtprelay-virgin0182.hostedemail.com Received: from [64.99.136.182] ([64.99.136.182:53026] helo=smtprelay-virgin.hostedemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1E/79-35522-18BD2194 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:56:50 -0500 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay05.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C7AEDA902BC; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:56:47 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2,0,0,54ac54930d808413,691ff1dea13fdf9b,steph@php.net,bdavies@stickyeyes.com:iammrdan@googlemail.com:troelskn@gmail.com:larry@garfieldtech.com:internals@lists.php.net,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1538:1587:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2377:2393:2559:2562:2828:3027:3350:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3873:3874:3876:3877:4250:5007:6114:6119:6261:7653:7875:7903:8501,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from foxbox (62-31-252-63.cable.ubr07.shef.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.252.63]) (Authenticated sender: steph.fox) by omf09.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:56:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <013701c94007$02a3ae80$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> To: "Ben Davies" , "'Dan'" , "'troels knak-nielsen'" Cc: "'Larry Garfield'" , References: <4EA88C3A8A2747989925A5D21448FCE7@pc> <200811052154.29537.larry@garfieldtech.com> <98b8086f0811060150p2fb0312dj66896cb227c871ec@mail.gmail.com> <007301c93ffe$f4b5ad80$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <029101c94004$d4564440$7d02ccc0$@com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:58:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-session-marker: 73746570682E666F78 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Call it: allow reserved words in a class or not? From: steph@php.net ("Steph Fox") This namespaces issues highlights the very fundamental issues with PHP, and glib, childish responses like yours only serve to score points. === The 'very fundamental issue' here is that you're expecting namespaces to allow things that are not legal in non-namespaced PHP code. The entire thrust of the internals discussion preceding this has been that preserving similar resolution rules in namespaced PHP code to those that already exist, will avoid potential confusion. And don't tell me to 'grow up' or I'll set my grandchildren on you ;) - Steph