Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41646 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 49040 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2008 16:45:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Nov 2008 16:45:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=helly@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=helly@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 85.214.94.56 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: helly@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.214.94.56 aixcept.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [85.214.94.56] ([85.214.94.56:59213] helo=h1149922.serverkompetenz.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 7C/47-15458-E0C70194 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:45:03 -0500 Received: from MBOERGER-ZRH (unknown [193.142.125.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h1149922.serverkompetenz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F6F11F5AD; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:44:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:44:57 +0100 Reply-To: Marcus Boerger X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1219068137.20081104174457@marcus-boerger.de> To: "Steph Fox" CC: "Gregory Beaver" , "Christian Schneider" , "Lukas Kahwe Smith" , "PHP Development" In-Reply-To: <02e001c93e9c$a8874f30$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> References: <49048EC1.9060908@chiaraquartet.net> <49061E01.8060503@zend.com> <11c607a60810271344i1a8cf53fl149447ad2f687f99@mail.gmail.com> <490628DB.9060209@zend.com> <11c607a60810271422l68949427pe31786275b0b152c@mail.gmail.com> <08747094-6B50-4A0D-9057-DFD12108B6C6@caedmon.net> <94CCB864-179A-48DA-A89A-3859796A9257@pooteeweet.org> <49063A1D.7070804@zend.com> <4906405F.7090205@zend.com> <490747B2.2010201@zend.com> <4D9A8597-EFE6-418A-B7F6-EAD9ED2361A5@pooteeweet.org> <7FA6946B-57B9-4BC0-B2F1-AFD47572F363@pooteeweet.org> <491071EC.7020501@cschneid.com> <49107527.7060604@chiaraquartet.net> <02e001c93e9c$a8874f30$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespace separator and whining From: helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger) Hello Steph, Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 5:44:50 PM, you wrote: > Hi Greg, all, >> For this reason, the only resolution that we should be considering is: >> >> classes: >> 1) try ns::class >> 2) autoload ns::class >> 3) fail >> >> functions/constants: >> 1) try ns::function/ns::const >> 2) try internal function/const >> 3) fail. > I see this as giving priority to library authors rather than the average PHP > user. So here's another option - and if I mention the word INI, will y'all > promise to read to the end before you shout at me? > We could have an INI_SYSTEM switch. Nope. INI is the worst we can do. [...] > What am I missing? That INI is the worst we could do. Because it prevents from writing portable code. > - Steph Best regards, Marcus