Newsgroups: php.internals,php.qa Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41619 php.qa:64506 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 54666 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2008 08:08:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Nov 2008 08:08:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ron@Opus1.COM; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ron@Opus1.COM; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain Opus1.COM designates 192.245.12.8 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ron@Opus1.COM X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.245.12.8 Viola.Opus1.COM OpenVMS 7.2 (Multinet 4.3-4.4 stack) Received: from [192.245.12.8] ([192.245.12.8:1679] helo=Viola.Opus1.COM) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 67/53-50864-461BE094 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 03:08:12 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([76.105.139.54]) by Opus1.COM (PMDF V6.2-X27 #9830) with ESMTPSA id <01N1H29HJW3G93503S@Opus1.COM>; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 01:07:57 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:08:00 -0800 In-reply-to: To: Sebastian Bergmann Cc: internals@lists.php.net, php-qa@lists.php.net Message-ID: <953EC958-77CB-49B9-8CAE-A123E9153FAD@opus1.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Gpgmail-State: !signed References: <7f3ed2c30810281230x189f3eddm23041830ee1fbfff@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Restructuring the QA team From: ron@Opus1.COM (Ronald Chmara) On Oct 31, 2008, at 5:16 AM, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Hannes Magnusson schrieb: >> Speaking of "QA people", how about crediting those who are actually >> working on QA and removing the names who haven't been around for >> years >> (I don't even recognized most of those names)? > > How do you recommend measuring who deserves credit? Who recommends (and how do they recommend) credit for PHP core? Who recommends (and how do they recommend) credit for PHP extensions? Who recommends (and how do they recommend) credit for PHP documentation? Who recommends (and how do they recommend) credit for PHP notes? Who recommends (and how do they recommend) credit for PHP QA? One thing that does bother me about Hannes's suggestion is the implication that somebody who worked on PHP for 3 years is less important than somebody who worked on PHP for a year or so, but they did so *very recently*. We all stand on the shoulders of others. +1 on adding names. -1 on removing names. The PHP project has 2,000+ authors. Some are well known "rockstars", others are virtually unknown. -Bop