Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41606 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45928 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2008 22:47:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Oct 2008 22:47:11 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=Johannes.Schlueter@Sun.COM; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 192.18.6.24 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.18.6.24 gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com Solaris 10 (beta) Received: from [192.18.6.24] ([192.18.6.24:40677] helo=gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4E/6E-00587-9EA8B094 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:47:10 -0500 Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe2.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.11]) by gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9VMl2xA005181 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:47:02 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K9M00601KLP6D00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> (original mail from johannes@php.net) for internals@lists.php.net; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:47:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([88.217.70.220]) by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9M00B9IKMDKU70@fe-emea-09.sun.com>; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:47:02 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:46:59 +0100 In-reply-to: <7f3ed2c30810311313i48390eaat279d88fe291b9f16@mail.gmail.com> Sender: Johannes.Schlueter@Sun.COM To: Hannes Magnusson Cc: Rasmus Lerdorf , Lukas Kahwe Smith , PHP Development Message-ID: <1225493220.3254.39.camel@goldfinger.johannes.nop> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 (2.22.3.1-1.fc9) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <2077BA98-A58A-4EBD-8088-413654E878BC@pooteeweet.org> <490B5CC5.8040808@lerdorf.com> <7f3ed2c30810311252x7c4f1cb9ydd41a273f4089311@mail.gmail.com> <490B639A.8050905@lerdorf.com> <7f3ed2c30810311313i48390eaat279d88fe291b9f16@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] keeping traffic on this list manageable From: johannes@php.net (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 21:13 +0100, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > > This is the same as just making internals@ read-only. Once we have an > > internals-core, many core people will just unsubscribe from the internals > > list. I know I probably would. And once the core developers no longer read > > it, it becomes php-general2 and it ends up excluding people from the > > development process. > > I have more faith in our devs then that. And I doubt you would > unsubscribe, you care to much (and one of the few devs I've seen to > reply to posts on php-general@ and then pear-dev@ the next day..). > Most of us do. You would probably filter those posts into a different > reading priority, but you would still browse through it. I assume some people would still be subscribed to it but just scroll over subjects from time to time with little interest, which might be frustrating to worthfull new contributors. Additionally I guess it would split discussions, so a "core" person proposes something to internals-readonly, then discussions happen on both lists with some cross-postings and some mails of a thread missing in one list - sounds annoying. johannes