Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41561 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 27054 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2008 16:30:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Oct 2008 16:30:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=brego.dk@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=brego.dk@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.46.31 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: brego.dk@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.46.31 yw-out-2324.google.com Received: from [74.125.46.31] ([74.125.46.31:14322] helo=yw-out-2324.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C0/70-24509-DAF88094 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:30:37 -0500 Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so25326ywb.83 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:30:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=BF9J55gWWRSEgpa1Da8ggMx1xi+lqaN75wCEPYhTbnU=; b=mfIKY2h1kWoWG3VE3qZ3n3rMVt74Sg6JOS8zpF75DKLQeDOg2fq6vBwQzDLms8jO8M MaRWWhySFwPqz3++imt+XQYjL6AGi4NTCmsd8w2eC3xM64XWJaWr6K+bnLYNVpw2mEEj +PxXvb/BlK4C15tv2TkXlFq9ofq6c5oToKbC4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=uGeclHHHbTHTFL1+xMU1oU5t7M9AqVqUGioEaTa3hAk1UPyreJRQ1/1BxB5kZnBBZ+ alQzUg+vsmrVs1GPzDSk86ab2sfrbyMdVu8zq9vrubSYV3hOin71+CpvFkeJfkOVMHGX RbB78vjTVqhvgeK73vcdUwQwlNIackYUxnzgo= Received: by 10.65.96.17 with SMTP id y17mr9475989qbl.85.1225297834535; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.95.20 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12394a490810290930ib8eebf1v10ebd5929a54560d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:30:34 -0400 To: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <261daaa10810290902r555c807fp7878148c0b193f63@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <64B4CECA-980F-4738-8B05-E7935741D7BB@pooteeweet.org> <99cd336d0810270813p44f2ee7fke3734ff45f4be5a4@mail.gmail.com> <1225121482.6991.20.camel@goldfinger.johannes.nop> <8c35d7690810270850r7d53e40fvfdc1fd7e78030d6b@mail.gmail.com> <005f01c938de$028f2300$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <022101c938fc$a77cae50$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <28.71.07369.81088094@pb1.pair.com> <261daaa10810290902r555c807fp7878148c0b193f63@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] alpha2 scheduled From: brego.dk@gmail.com ("Kamil \"Brego\" Dzielinski") I really wish that this list was developer-only (which would mean i couldn't write this post). The developers made a decision. And as much as I dislike the "feel" of the '\' as namespace separator, the argumentation for it is really solid - and it's a one character, distinctive separator. Would you all really prefer to have to stand on your head and make funny gestures instead? I wouldn't. In the end the users of this language will do as they have always done with new features. 20% will dislike the implementation, 20% will outward not use it and 10% will misunderstand the benefits. But the rest of use will do as usual - adapt, and be glad for a new, and useful improvement. So, as one of the people waiting for this feature for last 4 or 5 years, please, go with it, ignore the whiners, and make as all happy, as you continue to do :) Oh, and come out with that alpha as soon as possible, I'm so eager to try this out :) Thanks, -- Kamil "Brego" Dzielinski: http://brego.dk/ Life is ours, we live it our way -- Metallica