Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41557 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 17842 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2008 15:30:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Oct 2008 15:30:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([127.0.0.1:18402]) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ECSTREAM id 76/81-07369-29188094 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:30:26 -0500 X-Host-Fingerprint: 87.194.160.12 mail.netbasic.co.uk Received: from [87.194.160.12] ([87.194.160.12:2523] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 28/71-07369-81088094 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:24:09 -0500 Message-ID: <28.71.07369.81088094@pb1.pair.com> To: internals@lists.php.net Reply-To: "Kelvin" References: <64B4CECA-980F-4738-8B05-E7935741D7BB@pooteeweet.org> <7f3ed2c30808272332m3066d1e5s677bb91f4b80c4b5@mail.gmail.com> <48B6E3A8.8030903@zend.com> <7f3ed2c30808291243x3ca7133cl5e15353368b25480@mail.gmail.com> <48B85548.1030608@zend.com> <99cd336d0810270813p44f2ee7fke3734ff45f4be5a4@mail.gmail.com> <1225121482.6991.20.camel@goldfinger.johannes.nop> <8c35d7690810270850r7d53e40fvfdc1fd7e78030d6b@mail.gmail.com> <005f01c938de$028f2300$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <022101c938fc$a77cae50$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> In-Reply-To: <022101c938fc$a77cae50$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:23:55 -0000 Lines: 44 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Posted-By: 87.194.160.12 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] alpha2 scheduled From: kelvin@netbasic.co.uk ("Kelvin") Steph You dismiss the vocal voices far to quickly, claiming its only a minority against this is very misleading - The majority of Developers are probably oblivious to this conversation. The way this argument is heating up and people are being flamed downed, Namespaces will be known as the "Addition that killed PHP" rather than the "Killer addition to PHP". I'm of the opinion that using a \ is a bad idea, mostly for the same reasons as everybody else, and I think lots of people will avoid using them like the plague. Since this affects everybody, it should be opened up to the community, so, the internals should put together several options and then open a poll for the community to vote on and then use which ever comes out on top. Cheers Kelvin ""Steph Fox"" wrote in message news:022101c938fc$a77cae50$3ffc1f3e@foxbox... > Hi Marius, > >> yes is true that i like to have strong opinions and yes i could be >> wrong in most of them >> but when all the comunity screems at the namespace issue > > "All the community" is not screaming at the namespace issue. "A minority > of the community" is, but most of that minority would scream whatever we > did. > >> an semisolution would be an php.ini variable >> like >> NAMSPACE_SEPARATOR="::" > > :-) > > Now go away and think really hard about what you wrote there, and you'll > maybe understand that smiley. > > - Steph