Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41512 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 83307 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2008 12:50:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Oct 2008 12:50:37 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:40995] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 19/33-00734-B9A07094 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:50:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDA4414400F; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:50:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6J6VJWU5dVVr; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:50:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.5.135] (cust.static.84-253-51-151.cybernet.ch [84.253.51.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02949414400B; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:50:37 +0100 (CET) Cc: "Steph Fox" , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22=D3lafur_Waage=22?= , internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: <2091B4A7-4BBB-4363-A70A-6A03FA98FAEC@pooteeweet.org> To: "marius popa" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:49:27 +0100 References: <64B4CECA-980F-4738-8B05-E7935741D7BB@pooteeweet.org> <7f3ed2c30808272332m3066d1e5s677bb91f4b80c4b5@mail.gmail.com> <48B6E3A8.8030903@zend.com> <7f3ed2c30808291243x3ca7133cl5e15353368b25480@mail.gmail.com> <48B85548.1030608@zend.com> <99cd336d0810270813p44f2ee7fke3734ff45f4be5a4@mail.gmail.com> <1225121482.6991.20.camel@goldfinger.johannes.nop> <8c35d7690810270850r7d53e40fvfdc1fd7e78030d6b@mail.gmail.com> <005f01c938de$028f2300$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] alpha2 scheduled From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 28.10.2008, at 13:41, marius popa wrote: > but when all the comunity screems at the namespace issue i think > core developers should be more diplomatic and offer the good > solution not > close the eyes and wash the hands and go forward its always nice to ask for diplomacy after throwing around insults. that being said, we have been quite calm in trying to explain the reasons. but maybe if people would try out more reasonable forms of inquiry it would all go a bit smoother, it takes two to tango. at any rate, i hope that we will soon have a FAQ online that will make it even easier (easier than reading through 3 RFC's on the wiki). not sure when that will be ready. > an semisolution would be an php.ini variable > like > NAMSPACE_SEPARATOR="::" > so if you have an issue with your classes can be reset to "\" or > whatever with ini_set this will lead to incompatible code and deployment nightmares. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org