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Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:49:29 +0100
To: "marius popa" <mapopa@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] alpha2 scheduled
From: kalle.php@gmail.com ("Kalle Sommer Nielsen")

2008/10/28 marius popa <mapopa@gmail.com>:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Steph Fox <steph@php.net> wrote:
>> Hi Marius,
>>
>> Don't know i never saw something so ugly since c++ templates syntax
>> I find it funny that php is designed by committee and no one listen to
>> the community
>> ===
>>
>> You have written to this list a few times before. Here's a brief summary of
>> your posts:
>>
>> 1) We should be moving to git not svn
>> 2) We should drop $ for variables because it makes PHP 'bloated'
>> 3) Mingw compilation (which we don't support) fails
>> 4) If we want your help supporting firebird under Windows we should build it
>> and send you a report
>> 5) We're on slashdot (for \)
>>
>> ===
>> And the team continues even if is an bad decision (they call it
>> technical one) if you see it from the point of view of syntax elegance
>> it's not so pretty  even c++ looks better .
>> ===
>>
>> I'm not even going to comment on that.
>>
>> - Steph
> yes is true that i like to have strong opinions and yes i could be
> wrong in most of them
> but when all the comunity screems at the namespace issue i think
> core developers should be more diplomatic and offer the good solution not
> close the eyes and wash the hands and go forward
>
> an semisolution would be an php.ini variable
> like
> NAMSPACE_SEPARATOR="::"
> so if you have an issue with your classes can be reset to "\" or
> whatever with ini_set

An ini value for a language operator? I don't think I know any
language that lets the end developers change the way a language looks
like by a configurative, and honestly that doesn't solve any issues if
someone uses :: as seperator unless :: is disabled.

<sarcasm>
Why not put namespaces in its own Zend extension then?
</sarcasm>

>
> i think it's easy to be done if i look at the patch  that created the
> backslash separator issue
> http://pear.php.net/~greg/backslash.sep.patch.txt

Parts of the code is generated by RE2C so its not really as easy as it may look

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