Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41507 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 77995 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2008 12:41:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Oct 2008 12:41:29 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mapopa@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mapopa@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.13 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mapopa@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.13 mail-gx0-f13.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.13] ([209.85.217.13:53955] helo=mail-gx0-f13.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 73/12-00734-77807094 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:41:28 -0500 Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so3792594gxk.23 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:41:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=zyGnswHd+L1f3SXs+L7ZEfMZdiIMBH/Q9wX4N/ZpaaI=; b=g5AtGrE9CxEhq65ZK1xKNlAP0jKzUn3B7CGrrkJe4j/ieAD3WIPT0jvr/3swlf/hr9 pvTKOzUv4sROOQZTD6egTEDtQHVcwke5qStWJUex3CBepvVDDAYF/Jn8KmWttYEDnfqS 5eikdq6wnmiM+uyg9yjUAbITG45PvHuRwr7+U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=c0YlTt0mA0mIFqaU79eD488dnVEpdFlUmXeay9vbe/IqZOSWC3ugfQwJixYQMVK+l3 YPiLji+bi6T/nCDY9sN9GB2At9I0LIsXanEEWZPofOb8UH/Q3V3c9tbmOfpAFNiwNFOU y/lx7Z3Rzj80zFe4MVuuUwbXznIvo2LSLIJQU= Received: by 10.100.138.10 with SMTP id l10mr7030949and.25.1225197684281; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.95.12 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:41:24 +0200 To: "Steph Fox" Cc: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D3lafur_Waage?=" , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <005f01c938de$028f2300$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <64B4CECA-980F-4738-8B05-E7935741D7BB@pooteeweet.org> <7f3ed2c30808272332m3066d1e5s677bb91f4b80c4b5@mail.gmail.com> <48B6E3A8.8030903@zend.com> <7f3ed2c30808291243x3ca7133cl5e15353368b25480@mail.gmail.com> <48B85548.1030608@zend.com> <99cd336d0810270813p44f2ee7fke3734ff45f4be5a4@mail.gmail.com> <1225121482.6991.20.camel@goldfinger.johannes.nop> <8c35d7690810270850r7d53e40fvfdc1fd7e78030d6b@mail.gmail.com> <005f01c938de$028f2300$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] alpha2 scheduled From: mapopa@gmail.com ("marius popa") On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Steph Fox wrote: > Hi Marius, > > Don't know i never saw something so ugly since c++ templates syntax > I find it funny that php is designed by committee and no one listen to > the community > === > > You have written to this list a few times before. Here's a brief summary of > your posts: > > 1) We should be moving to git not svn > 2) We should drop $ for variables because it makes PHP 'bloated' > 3) Mingw compilation (which we don't support) fails > 4) If we want your help supporting firebird under Windows we should build it > and send you a report > 5) We're on slashdot (for \) > > === > And the team continues even if is an bad decision (they call it > technical one) if you see it from the point of view of syntax elegance > it's not so pretty even c++ looks better . > === > > I'm not even going to comment on that. > > - Steph yes is true that i like to have strong opinions and yes i could be wrong in most of them but when all the comunity screems at the namespace issue i think core developers should be more diplomatic and offer the good solution not close the eyes and wash the hands and go forward an semisolution would be an php.ini variable like NAMSPACE_SEPARATOR="::" so if you have an issue with your classes can be reset to "\" or whatever with ini_set i think it's easy to be done if i look at the patch that created the backslash separator issue http://pear.php.net/~greg/backslash.sep.patch.txt > > > > -- developer flamerobin.org