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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespace separator and whining
From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith)


On 27.10.2008, at 23:27, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:

>> this is how PHP got its huge userbase. we let people grow with  
>> their needs.
>
> And how exactly it serves the needs of people by secretly making  
> their applications orders of magnitude slower, and then saying "oh,  
> that's because you failed to read paragraph 16.4.5.1 in the manual,  
> you should really read that paragraph before pretending to be PHP  
> programmer!". Good environment or does what you want it to do, or  
> fails, explaining to you why it doesn't work - it doesn't do it half  
> way half broken and then blames you for not reading some obscure  
> note in the manual. That's not how I see helping.

ok this might be a shock for you .. but the vast majority of our user  
base does not have a performance problem (thats not to say we need to  
waste their CPU cycles .. we all love the planet).

then as we are suggesting they will not have to read a manual. in our  
proposal they can use all the existing books, examples on PHP, migrate  
their code easily to namespaces and things will just work. if they  
advance beyond the point of absolute n00b, they will learn to look for  
E_NOTICE and by that time they will know how to fix their performance  
issues (if they have any) without having to open a manual.

in your scenario, all examples in the world will mysteriously break  
when they are used inside a namespace (which they might have gotten  
from another example or some inherited code).

regards,
Lukas Kahwe Smith
mls@pooteeweet.org