Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41487 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 36143 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2008 21:27:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Oct 2008 21:27:21 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sean@caedmon.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sean@caedmon.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain caedmon.net from 64.15.79.181 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sean@caedmon.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.15.79.181 iconoclast.caedmon.net Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [64.15.79.181] ([64.15.79.181:36721] helo=iconoclast.caedmon.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F5/00-34199-83236094 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:27:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iconoclast.caedmon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0C91E0032; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:27:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at iconoclast.caedmon.net Received: from iconoclast.caedmon.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XK8hYL3ZWEBb; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:27:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.8.0.2] (sarcasm.vpn [10.8.0.2]) by iconoclast.caedmon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB271E0026; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:27:05 -0400 (EDT) Cc: "Stanislav Malyshev" , "Rodrigo Saboya" , internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: <08747094-6B50-4A0D-9057-DFD12108B6C6@caedmon.net> To: "Josh Davis" In-Reply-To: <11c607a60810271422l68949427pe31786275b0b152c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:27:10 -0400 References: <49048EC1.9060908@chiaraquartet.net> <4905EDA9.9050301@zend.com> <11c607a60810271049y419c252q7e21cde9221f1996@mail.gmail.com> <490600CD.5020207@zend.com> <11c607a60810271252r4bedeea8q59ce5423891d8e59@mail.gmail.com> <49061E01.8060503@zend.com> <11c607a60810271344i1a8cf53fl149447ad2f687f99@mail.gmail.com> <490628DB.9060209@zend.com> <11c607a60810271422l68949427pe31786275b0b152c@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespace separator and whining From: sean@caedmon.net (Sean Coates) > You want to force users to use the full name at all times. IOW, you > want to sacrifice convenience for performance. (chiming in because it seems that we're overlooking something obvious here) If it comes down to this, I'd prefer to see an E_NOTICE for the "bad performance" use, though I don't think it's necessary to shield users from this. There's plenty of poorly performing PHP code out there that an extra disk access isn't going to hurt. S