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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:22:21 +0100
To: "Stanislav Malyshev" <stas@zend.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespace separator and whining
From: phpwnd@gmail.com ("Josh Davis")

2008/10/27 Stanislav Malyshev <stas@zend.com>:

> 1) check for namespaced\classname
> 2) try to autoload namespaced\classname
> 3) fail

Ok, that makes some sense wrt your position, which I originally
interpreted as namespace/internal/autoload.

You want to force users to use the full name at all times. IOW, you
want to sacrifice convenience for performance. On the upside, no
ambiguity whatsoever. "new Foo" is always a namespaced class. The
downside is that it makes it harder for users to copy/paste code from
current tutorials and examples, they will have to fix the class names.
Also, a few people will probably regret not being able to
auto-magically override some internal classes (e.g. override PDO to
log queries and what not) and it will probably increase the amount of
complaints about peppering one's code with backslashes.

>> ...but didn't you say "one time is enough"? According to your own
>> logic, include is a "performance bomb" as well.
>
> You seem to not understand how bytecode caches work. With bytecode caches,
> you can have zeto disk accesses per request.

I didn't know that bytecode caches could optimize includes with
relative paths...