Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41469 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 70235 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2008 17:08:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Oct 2008 17:08:11 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.163 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.163 il-gw1.zend.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [212.25.124.163] ([212.25.124.163:56428] helo=il-gw1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D6/53-34199-A75F5094 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:08:11 -0500 Received: from us-gw1.zend.com ([192.168.16.5]) by il-gw1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:08:39 +0200 Received: from [192.168.16.110] ([192.168.16.110]) by us-gw1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:08:35 -0700 Message-ID: <4905F593.202@zend.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:08:35 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steph Fox CC: Thomas Lee , Arvids Godjuks , Lester Caine , PHP internals References: <49047D62.1030900@lsces.co.uk> <49059FC1.2060702@vector-seven.com> <9b3df6a50810270411t2b8e050au33d68564225311d4@mail.gmail.com> <4905A81F.3070506@vector-seven.com> <031f01c9382c$670224c0$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <4905EBC2.5010002@zend.com> <04e601c93854$75c2aa70$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> In-Reply-To: <04e601c93854$75c2aa70$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2008 17:08:35.0906 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5EFAA20:01C93856] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RE: From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > OK. > > 4) Claim that there is no real problem in addressing ambiguous situations. This is not what I meant, but there's obviously neither use nor interest in further discussing this topic as decision was already taken. I only wish people would not start rewriting history as other opinions or options didn't even exist so soon. I'm fine with making the choice, what I'm not fine with is presenting the thing as there was never any other options at all. We had plenty of options, maybe too many, we tried to choose the best, time will tell if we succeeded. Memory hole is not necessary for that. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com