Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41458 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10870 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2008 14:36:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Oct 2008 14:36:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sean@caedmon.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sean@caedmon.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain caedmon.net from 64.15.79.181 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sean@caedmon.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.15.79.181 iconoclast.caedmon.net Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [64.15.79.181] ([64.15.79.181:58471] helo=iconoclast.caedmon.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 32/77-34199-3F1D5094 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:36:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iconoclast.caedmon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBB91E0013; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:36:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at iconoclast.caedmon.net Received: from iconoclast.caedmon.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HLFFk7TU6YHi; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.8.0.2] (sarcasm.vpn [10.8.0.2]) by iconoclast.caedmon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181ED1E0008; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Steph Fox , Arvids Godjuks , Lester Caine , PHP internals Message-ID: <1E97A88E-2CAA-4893-B894-4CBDD5385CC5@caedmon.net> To: Thomas Lee In-Reply-To: <4905BBD3.5060404@vector-seven.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:36:22 -0400 References: <49047D62.1030900@lsces.co.uk> <49059FC1.2060702@vector-seven.com> <9b3df6a50810270411t2b8e050au33d68564225311d4@mail.gmail.com> <4905A81F.3070506@vector-seven.com> <031f01c9382c$670224c0$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <4905BBD3.5060404@vector-seven.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RE: From: sean@caedmon.net (Sean Coates) > Actually I've been following namespaces for a fair while, but the =20 > issue of :: being a problem wasn't really raised until a few weeks =20 > ago. I realize this isn't a terribly constructive comment as it doesn't =20 solve any problems, but I hope it's constructive in the way that it =20 actually causes people to do as Derick said and go get a coffee =20 instead of whining about syntax... AGAIN. The issue of :: being a problem (causes ambiguity) was part of the =20 ORIGINAL namespace discussion that took place 3 years ago. Some of us =20= have been dealing with people complaining about this for 3 years (I =20 blogged about ::: and \ in 2005), and I'm very happy we've finally =20 come to a resolution. If the core developers chose another operator, =20 then DIFFERENT people would be whining, so it's lose-lose. Now, sit back, relax, trust that the developers who chose this =20 actually have half a clue, and stop crying wolf=97all of you. S=