Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41457 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 6535 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2008 14:22:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Oct 2008 14:22:29 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=hannes.magnusson@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=hannes.magnusson@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.146.179 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: hannes.magnusson@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.146.179 wa-out-1112.google.com Received: from [209.85.146.179] ([209.85.146.179:19676] helo=wa-out-1112.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 90/96-34199-5AEC5094 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:22:29 -0500 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j32so1292892waf.7 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:22:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=BxAKHOicL3gMGvbjb4H9MQ25tQ8mNRM/26nRCFQAtdw=; b=P+RONlKJDvnR0fIFx2Lk7+uwtj20qNPK/BlP2OmVzDKnpz9Te4dwC3Mz+bVQb9DMAO gsBcrJoN6mJR+AlkgCsu9uD8DvGODmXQa/wT80NQvU+Gt/wGHc/dNLjaMr2HXsy2g6Ss Nk+2Ds2MKdQQvdL8ZmRMGmfgTYPKjIHWvSuNc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=FJh0jYvRI/tN/GXhC/AM8ct9V83Ixcl+hvaeNRdrmkt60ONgZYoL9Ris9CSNSVFmyl VqU796/fzdbZmopD+FfAdBCi5uNr86b2Mh7mifRdNv/vkl7ds9bInrVcXTt4Di6WuWzE LwLO9K+oZIF+/dfP/FerVEo1csXzdf56q+jsU= Received: by 10.115.18.3 with SMTP id v3mr5242869wai.218.1225117346465; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.148.19 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7f3ed2c30810270722h7f1b471fp4a0155708a534846@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:22:26 +0100 To: "Sebastian Bergmann" Cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <49048EC1.9060908@chiaraquartet.net> <6BBBBBAF-E67A-4207-8068-BB609B4A3BDE@pooteeweet.org> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespace separator and whining From: hannes.magnusson@gmail.com ("Hannes Magnusson") On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 15:09, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Lukas Kahwe Smith schrieb: >> Now the people that were not able to attend this IRC meeting can >> either accept that there was a sufficient number of people to make >> a final decision on something that everybody (obviously also people >> who did not attend the meeting) had plenty of time to make their >> concerns heard or you can question this approach. > > It eludes me how something can be discussed and be voted upon when the > only basis for discussion is the current implementation (that has no > specification). What exactly are you expecting other then the various wiki entries and README.namespaces in CVS? Stop being such a dick. It is great that some project only thinks about specifications, and cool UML diagrams and use cases and all the stuff you learned taking your master, but never implement a single piece of code - or are so seriously over engineered that are impossible to use.. but PHP has been working fine using the trigger happy coding approach for the last several years. -Hannes