Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41435 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 49073 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2008 11:11:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Oct 2008 11:11:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=arvids.godjuks@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=arvids.godjuks@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 66.249.92.172 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.249.92.172 ug-out-1314.google.com Received: from [66.249.92.172] ([66.249.92.172:50280] helo=ug-out-1314.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 85/1B-34199-BE1A5094 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:11:40 -0500 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 39so196842ugf.37 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 04:11:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=LSIEx2jrbJgTLcJdFLMQVGi7fhpX1ufNLwmhACUu3vE=; b=aiMh6diWcEBKvKP5TAmHxq5SfQqDCIwxD/sG7VnYRpA4ElIPyz8Jd3f9NLfbQ6TahO c1fHpRBqXxHBwRk0GP4hgcVmYSvBR3CaBMaC19M9vO0fevIQxVe3BkvlSfjGDsiATW3X myckXfc+jSeGmQ+e185oGbCfRn/Gy7YQ8Ppmk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=V8umYKv4Hr7q89N1A5c4NNn4nt7TBLLuNW8xMUdIRF38/HQ8NpSuKtgcPh1TyBB6PK f4wtIDy8j4vF02grE+6RWMEJE4xQWRJrJ7ZqPv0NYD++vqHnjA9SZlOq+HqOdDkNmdH1 yAS+3KZNtfjMiEm3BOdFTG4o7xPTRPtDZ8rzU= Received: by 10.66.236.13 with SMTP id j13mr1982759ugh.7.1225105897073; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 04:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.25.15 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 04:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9b3df6a50810270411t2b8e050au33d68564225311d4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:11:36 +0200 To: "Thomas Lee" Cc: "Lester Caine" , "PHP internals" In-Reply-To: <49059FC1.2060702@vector-seven.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16236_2841275.1225105897055" References: <49047D62.1030900@lsces.co.uk> <49059FC1.2060702@vector-seven.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RE: From: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com ("Arvids Godjuks") ------=_Part_16236_2841275.1225105897055 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This was argued for months, there was tons of emails to read and backslash is best for most people. PHP is dynamic language - that makes some major restrictions, so you just can't apply something that is already in use easily. That's why :: was rejected in first place. That's why . was rejected, other separators had other issues. Backslash is easy to see, easy to type (most layouts have it without Shift or something else) and clearly says - I'm a namespace! So anyway - in any language you will find something that you would't like. You just live with that or chouse another language. That's all. 2008/10/27 Thomas Lee > Lester Caine wrote: > >> The backslash is not ideal, but I think we all need to get behind it >> rather than complaining. The only other real alternative today is to shelve >> namespaces altogether for the next release rather than putting something in >> that is simply not practical to extend later? >> > I'd prefer to see it shelved for another release with the aim of fixing > whatever technical barriers made the syntax unworkable in the first place. > I'm sure you'd have plenty of volunteers. > > My personal concern is that once this goes public, we (the end users) are > stuck with that decision for the forseeable future. > > I think there's obviously enough unhappy campers here that this option > should be at least considered. Not that I'm holding my breath or anything. > > Everybody seems to be getting awfully emotional about this ... > > Cheers, > > T > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > ------=_Part_16236_2841275.1225105897055--