Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41399 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 78946 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2008 22:01:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Oct 2008 22:01:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=greg@chiaraquartet.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=greg@chiaraquartet.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain chiaraquartet.net from 208.83.222.18 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: greg@chiaraquartet.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 208.83.222.18 unknown Linux 2.6 Received: from [208.83.222.18] ([208.83.222.18:52070] helo=mail.bluga.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id AB/E4-46868-FB8E4094 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:01:36 -0500 Received: from mail.bluga.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bluga.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31425C10597; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:01:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from Greg-Beavers-monster.local (c-24-63-32-181.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.63.32.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bluga.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F7AC10527; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:01:13 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4904E8BB.1040603@chiaraquartet.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:01:31 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070807) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre Joye CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <49048EC1.9060908@chiaraquartet.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespace separator and whining From: greg@chiaraquartet.net (Greg Beaver) Pierre Joye wrote: > @Greg and Steph: Private discussions are bad. Or are you trying to say > that this list can't be used as a discussion platform (even heated)? > If we like to have a developer only list, let do it, but keep things > in the public area, that's the only way to keep our decision process > transparent for everyone. Hi Pierre, Go ahead and attack my character if you feel it serves some purpose and benefits PHP. I on the other hand will continue to post actual solutions, patches and discuss them. I stand by my obvious public intent with the multiple emails, RFCs and patches I have sent. It's truly laughable to suggest that I have done anything private when the truth is closer to a flood of internals with public airing of ideas and patches :). With regard to the namespace discussion, the decision has been made by the RMs, and unless your intent is to undermine or reformulate the RM process, I suggest we get in line behind Lukas and Johannes and instead start talking about implementing the new separator or about other unrelated issues in namespaces. Thanks, Greg