Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41397 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 72170 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2008 21:26:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Oct 2008 21:26:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.198.235 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.198.235 rv-out-0506.google.com Received: from [209.85.198.235] ([209.85.198.235:31829] helo=rv-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F9/B3-46868-180E4094 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:26:26 -0500 Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id g37so1942919rvb.23 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:26:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=vdW6edUBJX9aHb10nktQQCk6y2kZVvwqV3WhSnIpO50=; b=GbhMzLKquMLrHdDJo9NFB7V9PNeFAAds6xETFkQtBTvHsSVj0vENVAlP4uMaE803rJ vGKBEqNtiow4zJcJ9BGFO7zpCqFkyGboZGetBFZsLF6U4k9EGDzzBtz0O+UucP5z5MgE 3lu/vPKcYPBh0cSCJLggWwm7u4hTU8bOjGrRg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=kOOZUPbhsyShMxyq0B85KOeckAX20redqi2JU0SqZXKbA/ETH2qqe0D3Z31xo9nVDf BNxHleYp3Q2PxbywR+nXKDIRS2aT+8eUH9RDRuGJvS76bI+oAA3P1FQyI1GfsfLP4trX Jc31fc8Vks8iTPgmoB5VKOLfp89k1oVXbCWZI= Received: by 10.141.115.20 with SMTP id s20mr2776878rvm.200.1225056383507; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.178.14 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:26:23 -0700 To: "Steph Fox" Cc: "Lukas Kahwe Smith" , "Sebastian Bergmann" , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <023601c937b1$2d1045b0$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <49048EC1.9060908@chiaraquartet.net> <023601c937b1$2d1045b0$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespace separator and whining From: pierre.php@gmail.com ("Pierre Joye") On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Steph Fox wrote: > Hi Pierre, > >> Excuse me but while the idea to have an online meeting was great, >> sending a mail to ask to attend an online meeting 24 hours before and >> on a Friday was not a wised choice. I would have participated too if >> it was during this week or the next weekend. > > You were actually online throughout it, and were notified that it was > happening at the start. In fact you were the first person to blog the > outcome of the meeting. "I'm" always online, bot/proxy. >> I do agree with Sebastian about not allowing functions and constants >> (from a principle point of view, as I barely see any example out there >> of NS and procedural code). > > Apart from PEAR? That's a new feature for a not released PHP version. The large part of the pear code base is OO anyway. > @Pierre: we didn't have a 'private discussion'. See my attempt to make this comment more clear. > The need for a dev-only discussion will I think become apparent if you look > at the detailed investigative reports Greg gave. I tend to think that there is phases, some are more heat, other are deadly quiet. Nothing that can really justify to create a larger wall between our users and us, even if we sometimes like to silent some of them :) Cheers, -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org