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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Sanity tally #2
From: steph@php.net ("Steph Fox")

Josh, please...

> What I'm wondering is how many of those "many" voted for or against a
> proposition for the wrong reason. For instance, how many users
> understood that 2 is not about the use of triple colon? If someone
> disregarded 2 because of the triple colon then it was a mistake, as
> the triple colon was only an example.

Some wrote '#2 with a different separator'. Others focused on the separator 
itself and either voted for or against it. The fact is that this would also 
happen in RL once the thing's out there - some happy, some not, some 
actually finding the thing unusable. Specifically in the case of :::, those 
with less than 20-20 vision genuinely couldn't use it - and that is 
something we didn't really know before the poll. So that's shifted the 
boundaries a little in what will or will not be an acceptable solution.

And I'm not saying it would
> change the result of that poll, if a poll on which separator to use
> had been conducted perhaps the triple colon would have won--it has had
> good numbers in the past.

In fact it came second back in the day, so it was genuinely a contender.

> In the end, what I'm wondering is how reliable people are when asked
> about their opinion. Usually not much, but you know that already.

I do, but I think you have to look beyond that to 'why' the opinion rather 
than 'what' the opinion. Even the rush of 'because everyone else is...' at 
the end was interesting that way. It implies that any sensible solution 
would be accepted by the majority.

> With that said, I'd enjoy having less noise on the list as much as
> anyone else.

Amen to that.

- Steph